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I mentioned this right above but I absolutely agree. The only solution right now is to go along with it and actively participate in all the chats so you don't g

I mentioned this right above but I absolutely agree. The only solution right now is to go along with it and actively participate in all the chats so you don't get alienated. Basically you MUST play politics. And I think this is the core of the problem. Office politics is BAD. And wasting time chatting and sharing GIFS all day instead of working is BAD. An ideal tool for the workplace should minimize office politics, not create more. Also it shouldn't distract people into "Slack"ing off. An organization that incentivizes developers who play politics instead of doing good work is not a great workplace.

lobotryas 9y ago
Do you realize that when you get a sufficiently large or diverse group of people together there will invariably be politics? Even within a family or group of friends there are politics in people promoting their own interests or vying for affection/time of others. This is not an inherent flaw in the system. This is how the system was designed to work.
solatic 9y ago
> wasting time chatting and sharing GIFS all day instead of working is BAD... An organization that incentivizes developers who play politics instead of doing good work is not a great workplace. Precisely - it is management's responsibility to foster an environment in which work gets done. If "fun" channels are really that busy then management needs to wonder whether people either aren't getting their work done or whether they're not being assigned enough work in the first place. > Basically you MUST play politics. Well... That's not necessarily a bad thing. Every organization has politics. Having people pay attention to their coworkers and their interests is a requirement of empathetic and successfully cooperative organizations. But it's management's responsibility to ensure that politics has its dedicated place, where all voices are encouraged and heard equally, and remains healthy (no back-stabbing), without politics becoming all-consuming and preventing real work from getting done.

lobotryas 9y ago

Do you realize that when you get a sufficiently large or diverse group of people together there will invariably be politics? Even within a family or group of friends there are politics in people promoting their own interests or vying for affection/time of others. This is not an inherent flaw in the system. This is how the system was designed to work.

solatic 9y ago

> wasting time chatting and sharing GIFS all day instead of working is BAD... An organization that incentivizes developers who play politics instead of doing good work is not a great workplace. Precisely - it is management's responsibility to foster an environment in which work gets done. If "fun" channels are really that busy then management needs to wonder whether people either aren't getting their work done or whether they're not being assigned enough work in the first place. > Basically you MUST play politics. Well... That's not necessarily a bad thing. Every organization has politics. Having people pay attention to their coworkers and their interests is a requirement of empathetic and successfully cooperative organizations. But it's management's responsibility to ensure that politics has its dedicated place, where all voices are encouraged and heard equally, and remains healthy (no back-stabbing), without politics becoming all-consuming and preventing real work from getting done.