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This line of thought applies equally well to every individual hydrogen atom in the universe as it does to a person, yet it does not follow that they also have f
by mannykannot 9y ago
This line of thought applies equally well to every individual hydrogen atom in the universe as it does to a person, yet it does not follow that they also have free will. Where OP says 'predictable', I think he means 'determined' or 'pre-ordained'.
- dingo_bat 9y agoBut since you cannot differentiate between predictable and preordained, what is the difference?
- mannykannot 9y agoThat something is not predictable does not mean that it is not pre-ordained, even if one cannot tell the difference. Classical mechanics is a model that is fully deterministic yet ultimately unpredictable, and similarly, syyrim's model of the universe as Turing-complete seems to assume it is pre-ordained (a model that goldenkey challenges), and yet ultimately unpredictable. On re-reading the thread, I am not sure what point syyrim was making. The ultimate unpredictability of the universe doesn't seem to settle any issue with regard to free will. Free will is not a claim that we cannot predict what we will do; it is a claim that we can make a choice (within some constraints) about what we will do.