> I never really understood why randomness would be needed for free will For some reason it had to be pointed out to me (awhile back) that being ruled by the r

> I never really understood why randomness would be needed for free will For some reason it had to be pointed out to me (awhile back) that being ruled by the rigorous iron fist of science's "yes technically non-deterministic but totally statistically modelable" quantum dice rolls isn't necessarily much better, if any, than being ruled by the rigorous iron fist of deterministic cause and effect. Ruled by chance or by force of sheer causality alone - at this point, I feel that any useful definition of "free will" probably equally applies (or doesn't) to both scenarios, and won't hinge on quantum unpredictability.