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Indeed. I've spent the better part of probably 100 hours configuring KDE Neon + apps + Emacs w/ a bunch of custom keyboard shortcuts, kwin rules, etc. to do my

Indeed. I've spent the better part of probably 100 hours configuring KDE Neon + apps + Emacs w/ a bunch of custom keyboard shortcuts, kwin rules, etc. to do my level best to get my home and work Linux machines to have sane, memorable keyboard interfaces. After a ton of effort and some oddities (kwin rules on window-class don't seem to trigger for Firefox for some reason) it mostly works. Mostly. One of the big benefits of the Mac-style shortcuts scheme is that there's no conflict between terminal commands and everything else... because things like Ctrl-C aren't overloaded, and I don't have to contextually remember to use Ctrl-Shift-C when in a terminal. I've said it before, but I'd pay non-trivial amounts of money for a Linux distribution that went to significant length to configure, compile, or otherwise mimic Mac-like shortcuts in its desktop environment and packaged applications.

m_mueller 9y ago
This is also one of the main reasons why I prefer mac over Linux even for serverside development and operations. MacOS Terminal is just exactly what I want from a terminal. It’s curious that no linux desktop seems to have achieved that yet. The other main reason for me is PDF support, but that gets buggier on mac with every release sadly. It seems to have reached its peak around 10.4 where OSX finally got really good.
- colanderman 9y ago
  Funny, I feel the opposite – certain keystrokes just don't work in Mac OS terminal (ex. Page Up/Down, Control+arrow keys), breaking my editor of choice – and Preview is surprisingly slow, crashy, and difficult to navigate with (ex. page numbers don't line up). Whereas on Linux, my terminal (urxvt) behaves perfectly w/r/t keystrokes (though I wish I could increase/decrease the font size with a keyboard shortcut), and Evince is the most perfect PDF reader I've ever used (fast, and gets page numbers correct).
  - m_mueller 9y ago
    What OS you prefer is highly dependent on what you emphasise. From your examples, I don't care about paging in Terminal, and word-jumps work throughout MacOS using alt-arrow-left/right. Preview is indeed crashy and slow but it's still the only one that gives me the editing features I want out-of-the box without installing Adobe Creator tools. More importantly, MacOS (and its predecessor NextStep) is AFAIK still the only system that can create lossless PDFs out of anything you see on screen. The fact that I can open a PDF, make a rectangular selection and copy&paste to native MacOS applications while keeping images, vector graphics and fonts at full quality (i.e. you can zoom in without aliasing forever!) is a big part of my workflow when documenting stuff.

m_mueller 9y ago

This is also one of the main reasons why I prefer mac over Linux even for serverside development and operations. MacOS Terminal is just exactly what I want from a terminal. It’s curious that no linux desktop seems to have achieved that yet. The other main reason for me is PDF support, but that gets buggier on mac with every release sadly. It seems to have reached its peak around 10.4 where OSX finally got really good.

colanderman 9y ago
Funny, I feel the opposite – certain keystrokes just don't work in Mac OS terminal (ex. Page Up/Down, Control+arrow keys), breaking my editor of choice – and Preview is surprisingly slow, crashy, and difficult to navigate with (ex. page numbers don't line up). Whereas on Linux, my terminal (urxvt) behaves perfectly w/r/t keystrokes (though I wish I could increase/decrease the font size with a keyboard shortcut), and Evince is the most perfect PDF reader I've ever used (fast, and gets page numbers correct).
- m_mueller 9y ago
  What OS you prefer is highly dependent on what you emphasise. From your examples, I don't care about paging in Terminal, and word-jumps work throughout MacOS using alt-arrow-left/right. Preview is indeed crashy and slow but it's still the only one that gives me the editing features I want out-of-the box without installing Adobe Creator tools. More importantly, MacOS (and its predecessor NextStep) is AFAIK still the only system that can create lossless PDFs out of anything you see on screen. The fact that I can open a PDF, make a rectangular selection and copy&paste to native MacOS applications while keeping images, vector graphics and fonts at full quality (i.e. you can zoom in without aliasing forever!) is a big part of my workflow when documenting stuff.