I was just trying to give some context beyond a single quarter. The highly-criticized devices have been out for a long time and have been good sellers. They've

I was just trying to give some context beyond a single quarter. The highly-criticized devices have been out for a long time and have been good sellers. They've clearly got some work to do overall, though. I just don't think the Mac is in some historically-unique bad spot (not saying you said that), which one would surely think if they just went by blog posts.