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i think they re talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regul

i think they re talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regula...

thedaniel 9y ago
They aren't, exactly. In one of the articles linked from this one, it says > It’s easy to confuse the ePrivacy regulation with the General Data Protection Regulation, a broader law addressing consumer data privacy that has dominated the market’s attention lately. The core difference is that cookie use is central to the ePrivacy regulation, which is why it’s known as the “cookie law.” Businesses in Europe must get explicit consent to use cookies and provide clear opt-outs to users under the proposed new law. Meanwhile, the GDPR regulates the general handling of personal data.
- x0x0 9y ago
  and personal data includes cookies :) So yeah, confusing all around.
marknadal 9y ago
If that is true, why not throw things into some P2P cryptographically secure user account system like this[1] (disclaimer: ours). From a technology perspective, it is non-trivial for corps/companies to do this (since they don't value that). But the technology to do it already exists, so if laws are forcing people this direction, what is the best way to market the availability of systems like this? Any thoughts/clues? Thanks! [1] https://hackernoon.com/so-you-want-to-build-a-p2p-twitter-with-e2e-encryption-f90505b2ff8 https://hackernoon.com/so-you-want-to-build-a-p2p-twitter-wi...
- anomie31 9y ago
  That's a good idea, but if I were a German citizen I'd rather they use something that's tried and true like shibboleth. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but shibboleth is what most of America's colleges and universities use to allow students to access research material the institution has paid for. Something that isn't obvious though, is anyone can setup a shibboleth identity provider, the only difference being that it's not on the whitelists that academic identity providers are on.
  - closeparen 9y ago
    The general term for this property is “federated identity” and academia is probably the most mature and widespread implementation - academic institutions regularly allow visitors from other institutions to use their home institution’s credentials, for example in the worldwide “eduroam” WiFi network.
- zerostar07 9y ago
  some distributed pseudo-identity could be, as long as it has strong privacy protection and identities can be deleted / obfuscated in a way that becomes untraceable. but here you still have a centralized identity provider.
- deleted 9y ago
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guy98238710 9y ago
They are probably talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Regulation_(European_Union) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Regulation_(European_...

i think they re talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regula...

thedaniel 9y ago

They aren't, exactly. In one of the articles linked from this one, it says > It’s easy to confuse the ePrivacy regulation with the General Data Protection Regulation, a broader law addressing consumer data privacy that has dominated the market’s attention lately. The core difference is that cookie use is central to the ePrivacy regulation, which is why it’s known as the “cookie law.” Businesses in Europe must get explicit consent to use cookies and provide clear opt-outs to users under the proposed new law. Meanwhile, the GDPR regulates the general handling of personal data.

x0x0 9y ago
and personal data includes cookies :) So yeah, confusing all around.

marknadal 9y ago

If that is true, why not throw things into some P2P cryptographically secure user account system like this[1] (disclaimer: ours). From a technology perspective, it is non-trivial for corps/companies to do this (since they don't value that). But the technology to do it already exists, so if laws are forcing people this direction, what is the best way to market the availability of systems like this? Any thoughts/clues? Thanks! [1] https://hackernoon.com/so-you-want-to-build-a-p2p-twitter-with-e2e-encryption-f90505b2ff8 https://hackernoon.com/so-you-want-to-build-a-p2p-twitter-wi...

anomie31 9y ago
That's a good idea, but if I were a German citizen I'd rather they use something that's tried and true like shibboleth. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but shibboleth is what most of America's colleges and universities use to allow students to access research material the institution has paid for. Something that isn't obvious though, is anyone can setup a shibboleth identity provider, the only difference being that it's not on the whitelists that academic identity providers are on.
- closeparen 9y ago
  The general term for this property is “federated identity” and academia is probably the most mature and widespread implementation - academic institutions regularly allow visitors from other institutions to use their home institution’s credentials, for example in the worldwide “eduroam” WiFi network.
zerostar07 9y ago
some distributed pseudo-identity could be, as long as it has strong privacy protection and identities can be deleted / obfuscated in a way that becomes untraceable. but here you still have a centralized identity provider.
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guy98238710 9y ago

They are probably talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Regulation_(European_Union) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Regulation_(European_...