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Time to bring out the big guns and heavy fines (like the GDPR fines), but it will never happen with the current crop of corrupt politicians. All in the name of

• ekianjo 9y ago
  Then stop eating in such places. Stop eating chicken that comes from such places. Consumer pressure always helps.
  • Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
    Consumer pressure is no substitute for regulatory action.
    • asciimo 9y ago
      It can be. There are lots of stories of USDA inspections being lax. For example (https://www.motherjones.com/food/2015/02/usda-whistleblowers-report-gross-condition-hog-slaughterhouses/ https://www.motherjones.com/food/2015/02/usda-whistleblowers...). Meanwhile, the meat industry is investing in "clean meat" with surprising alacrity due to consumer demand (https://www.gfi.org/2017-a-wake-up-call-for-the-meat-industry https://www.gfi.org/2017-a-wake-up-call-for-the-meat-industr...).
    • ekianjo 9y ago
      of course it can be. in a market if stuff is not accepted anymore it stops being sold and practices change. We can still have a fUnctional economy without 30 volumes of new regulation written every single year.
  • adrianN 9y ago
    Consumer pressure only works if consumers a) actually care, and b) have enough information to make informed choices. Most people only look at the prices when shopping for groceries. No meat I've ever seen had information about the treatments the animals received.
    • lostlogin 9y ago
      It’s there - I’m vegetarian and I’ve noticed it. Depending on how organic certification works where you are, sometimes this covers it.
    • tnorthcutt 9y ago
      Assuming you're in the states, here's labeling information: https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/food-labeling/meat-and-poultry-labeling-terms/meat-and-poultry-labeling-terms https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety... And specifically, information about organic labeling for livestock (one requirement of which is no antibiotics): https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/Organic%20Livestock%20Requirements.pdf https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/Organic%2...
    • ekianjo 9y ago
      Note that nobody is forcing you to buy and eat meat. There is enough food variety out there nowadays to make it possible to live without eating much meat or at all.
  • tyfon 9y ago
    Unfortunately (or fortunately) I don't live in the countries where this happens, however I only eat meat maybe once or twice a week anymore, rest is vegetarian or fish. Not that our (Norwegian) farmed fish industry is much better. In any case, this has a negative impact on the whole world if a new bacteria that is resistant grows from these farms, that's why I was suggesting the big guns.
    • hycaria 9y ago
      Yeah I was shocked when I learned that the Norwegian aquaculture industry was actually worse (at least lower guarantees) due to Norway not being in the EU ! I don't buy animal flesh myself but I bring it up occasionnally to consumer friends.
    • devmunchies 9y ago
      > rest is vegetarian does that mean you consume eggs and cow's milk?
  • musage 9y ago
    Interestingly, I don't, yet the practices persist. I can't stop doing what I'm already not doing, and it seems like just not doing the thing isn't enough, some sort of interaction with those who do these things is required, be that animal farming practices or eating the resulting products.
• Lio 9y ago
  Sadly, if international pressure can’t get Norway, Iceland and Japan to stop hunting whales to extinction we probably have little hope of it pressurising Indian into not producing an antibiotic epidemic.