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I moved to OS X from Windows 7 around 6 years ago and I really missed the Windows at first. But then checked 8.1 and had no regrets, the thing was awful UX-wise

by b212 9y ago

I moved to OS X from Windows 7 around 6 years ago and I really missed the Windows at first. But then checked 8.1 and had no regrets, the thing was awful UX-wise, they tried to break my patterns but why? The only company I partially trust with my data is Apple and I think if I'd have to switch back to Windows right now I'd pick 7 - because it wasn't integrated so well with the Internet and it had no Metro. What sucks today is the fact that I feel the OSes are gradually getting worse from user perspective - excepting Linux distros - macOS is way less stable and secure than 6 years ago when I first joined the club and Windows after 7 feels like rushed job, just like with ME/Vista.

BoorishBears 9y ago
Because since Windows 9x they’ve had the same patterns and figured it was now or never. Windows 8 went a little too far, but 8.1 was generally well received, and is a very solid OS.
romanovcode 9y ago
> What sucks today is the fact that I feel the OSes are gradually getting worse from user perspective Windows10 UI is the same as Windows7. I don't get what you're saying here. > excepting Linux distros Linux is by any means objectively the worst UI for end-user. Otherwise the year of linux desktop would arrive.
- dingo_bat 9y ago
  I was surprised to learn that you can't even move the taskbar to another position on the screen in Ubuntu, which is supposed to be the most user-friendly Linux.
  - antoineMoPa 9y ago
    Windows also has it's user experience weaknesses. Windows reboots in your faces and keeps you from working for dozens of minutes when updating. Other examples: all the viruses, the need for constantly renewed hardware, the loads of crapware that come with most PCs.
  - pritambaral 9y ago
    "User-friendly" doesn't have to mean "user-empowering", just that it can be used without too much effort. In fact, all examples (that I can think of) of OS UX changes that were supposedly made to be more user-friendly, took away power/choice/features from users. From Windows 10 to OS X. In the world of Linux DEs, allowing the user to change the DE is considered a "power-user" feature. Sounds quite the opposite of "user-friendly", doesn't it?
    - romanovcode 9y ago
      > In the world of Linux DEs, allowing the user to change the DE is considered a "power-user" feature. The thing is 99.5% of computer users do not care about any of that.
dingo_bat 9y ago
> What sucks today is the fact that I feel the OSes are gradually getting worse from user perspective Looks like you haven't used Win10 yet. Try it. What Microsoft is doing is truly visionary and exciting, in a space where all innovation has been dead for a few years.

by b212 9y ago

BoorishBears 9y ago

Because since Windows 9x they’ve had the same patterns and figured it was now or never. Windows 8 went a little too far, but 8.1 was generally well received, and is a very solid OS.

romanovcode 9y ago

> What sucks today is the fact that I feel the OSes are gradually getting worse from user perspective Windows10 UI is the same as Windows7. I don't get what you're saying here. > excepting Linux distros Linux is by any means objectively the worst UI for end-user. Otherwise the year of linux desktop would arrive.

dingo_bat 9y ago
I was surprised to learn that you can't even move the taskbar to another position on the screen in Ubuntu, which is supposed to be the most user-friendly Linux.
- antoineMoPa 9y ago
  Windows also has it's user experience weaknesses. Windows reboots in your faces and keeps you from working for dozens of minutes when updating. Other examples: all the viruses, the need for constantly renewed hardware, the loads of crapware that come with most PCs.
- pritambaral 9y ago
  "User-friendly" doesn't have to mean "user-empowering", just that it can be used without too much effort. In fact, all examples (that I can think of) of OS UX changes that were supposedly made to be more user-friendly, took away power/choice/features from users. From Windows 10 to OS X. In the world of Linux DEs, allowing the user to change the DE is considered a "power-user" feature. Sounds quite the opposite of "user-friendly", doesn't it?
  - romanovcode 9y ago
    > In the world of Linux DEs, allowing the user to change the DE is considered a "power-user" feature. The thing is 99.5% of computer users do not care about any of that.

dingo_bat 9y ago

> What sucks today is the fact that I feel the OSes are gradually getting worse from user perspective Looks like you haven't used Win10 yet. Try it. What Microsoft is doing is truly visionary and exciting, in a space where all innovation has been dead for a few years.