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Good marketing does please users by delivering them products tailored to them that they may have never knew even existed.

taneq 9y ago
If I can go through your underpants drawer then I'll know the right kind of underpants to try and sell you. That means it's OK, right?
- girvo 9y ago
  (Tangent, but I’ve never found this particular example compelling. All that’s in my underwear drawer is underwear... and I don’t find that particularly embarrassing? I think I’m missing some cultural context for it)
  - spiraldancing 9y ago
    In the US, at least, the underwear drawer is a popular place to hide other things ... eg, your illegal drug stash, or the engagement ring you bought, etc. I think there's also subtextual implications of nosing about in your sex life.
  - taneq 9y ago
    It's a mild, nonspecific stand-in for whatever it is that you really don't want people knowing. Whether that's your weird fetish or your embarrassing hobby or the fact that you worked as a pianist in a brothel or whatever.
icebraining 9y ago
Then ask the users from which page they came from, I'm sure they'll be happy to do that so that they can know about those great products.
- dorgo 9y ago
  Nooo! Pleasee don't! It will be like these useless cookie warnings in EU all over www. I voluntary enable this path info if you spare me more popups.
  - chopin 9y ago
    I'd rather block popups... Or just use NoScript.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    Don't worry, the cookie warnings (actually third-party tracking warnings) will soon (May) become not useless at all. From May on sites have to offer yes/no, they may only track you if you choose yes, and if you choose no they may not ask again, and may not refuse access either. Which is what was originally intended all this time, and which all good websites offered anyway.
    - nindalf 9y ago
      I'm very curious about this. How will you keep track of a user who has opted out without using a cookie? That's my understanding of the issues - websites keep asking not because they think they can browbeat you into accepting cookies, but because they can't tell the difference between a user who has opted out of cookies and a first time user.
      - icebraining 9y ago
        There was never a blanket prohibition against cookies, that was a misconception (pushed purposefully by some, I suspect). Cookies which are "strictly necessary" in order to provide the service don't need to be approved. A cookie to remember that you don't want unnecessary cookies seems to fall well under that exception.
      - lozenge 9y ago
        They could use local storage? As local storage isn't sent to the server, the server will not know whether the user opted out. (User opt in will be a cookie still.) Alternatively, the legal definition of tracking cookie can differ from the technical definition of cookie. It wouldn't be the first time...!

taneq 9y ago

If I can go through your underpants drawer then I'll know the right kind of underpants to try and sell you. That means it's OK, right?

girvo 9y ago
(Tangent, but I’ve never found this particular example compelling. All that’s in my underwear drawer is underwear... and I don’t find that particularly embarrassing? I think I’m missing some cultural context for it)
- spiraldancing 9y ago
  In the US, at least, the underwear drawer is a popular place to hide other things ... eg, your illegal drug stash, or the engagement ring you bought, etc. I think there's also subtextual implications of nosing about in your sex life.
- taneq 9y ago
  It's a mild, nonspecific stand-in for whatever it is that you really don't want people knowing. Whether that's your weird fetish or your embarrassing hobby or the fact that you worked as a pianist in a brothel or whatever.

icebraining 9y ago

Then ask the users from which page they came from, I'm sure they'll be happy to do that so that they can know about those great products.

dorgo 9y ago
Nooo! Pleasee don't! It will be like these useless cookie warnings in EU all over www. I voluntary enable this path info if you spare me more popups.
- chopin 9y ago
  I'd rather block popups... Or just use NoScript.
- kuschku 9y ago
  Don't worry, the cookie warnings (actually third-party tracking warnings) will soon (May) become not useless at all. From May on sites have to offer yes/no, they may only track you if you choose yes, and if you choose no they may not ask again, and may not refuse access either. Which is what was originally intended all this time, and which all good websites offered anyway.
  - nindalf 9y ago
    I'm very curious about this. How will you keep track of a user who has opted out without using a cookie? That's my understanding of the issues - websites keep asking not because they think they can browbeat you into accepting cookies, but because they can't tell the difference between a user who has opted out of cookies and a first time user.
    - icebraining 9y ago
      There was never a blanket prohibition against cookies, that was a misconception (pushed purposefully by some, I suspect). Cookies which are "strictly necessary" in order to provide the service don't need to be approved. A cookie to remember that you don't want unnecessary cookies seems to fall well under that exception.
    - lozenge 9y ago
      They could use local storage? As local storage isn't sent to the server, the server will not know whether the user opted out. (User opt in will be a cookie still.) Alternatively, the legal definition of tracking cookie can differ from the technical definition of cookie. It wouldn't be the first time...!