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• lj3 9y ago
  PHP 4, maybe? My experience with PHP 5+ has not been any of the things you mention.
  • danielvf 9y ago
    Most PHP frameworks these days are a horror show of overcomplexity, precisely because they are trying to write Java in a language that is not Java. In my crotchety, old man opinion, people have been trying very hard to make PHP like a blub, overly verbose language, and trying to hide the things that made it great.
    • _diyu 9y ago
      What kind of things make it great? I only see downsides or at the very least poorly implemented upsides that most other languages only have.