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Yeah, the the post I replied to claimed there were restrictions on private clinics specifically, but the public clinics/hospitals have to follow the same rules.

by tyfon 9y ago

Yeah, the the post I replied to claimed there were restrictions on private clinics specifically, but the public clinics/hospitals have to follow the same rules. Also: are there any places that charge for births???? That sounds ridiculous and insane to me.

ucaetano 9y ago
> Also: are there any places that charge for births???? That sounds ridiculous and insane to me. Then the entire US healthcare system will sound ridiculous and insane to you :) And, to be honest, it is. I have American friends who had accidents while in developing countries (broke an arm in Costa Rica) and were puzzled that they were treated and didn't have to pay anything, or very little (broke feet in Croatia).
michaelchisari 9y ago
are there any places that charge for births???? That sounds ridiculous and insane to me. In the U.S., if you have decent insurance, you'll still end up paying a couple thousand or more after insurance payouts. And that's just for the birth and short (1-2 days) hospital stay. Any complications and you're potentially paying much, much more. Especially NICU, it's not unusual to pay hundreds of dollars per day of NICU care after insurance, and non-insured costs can easily end up in the tens or hundreds of thousands, and in rare situations in the millions.
vidarh 9y ago
I think you misunderstand. The restrictions in Norway are on which services private providers are licensed to provide. It's not that many years ago that private providers were unable to offer surgeries that were covered by public healthcare at all. E.g. most private providers in Norway once they started getting licensed at all only offered things like cosmetic surgery. The first private hospital in Norway wasn't started until 1985 (Ring Medisinske Senter, now Volvat) and I remember the controversy it caused, even though it's services originally were very restricted (they were "famous" early on for being the first place in Norway you could get breast enlargements, as they were not covered by public healthcare) It's been softened up gradually, but you'll note i you click around on the linked provided earlier that for many types of operations the only providers are either non-profits like LHL or government run hospitals - for some this is simply because no private providers have wanted to enter that space yet, but for others it's down to concerns about availability/training making the government hesitant to allow more providers, as described elsewhere. As I pointed out in my other reply, I'm not criticizing it (at least not as long as it is regularly evaluated for whether or not it continues to offer the best treatment options, as it seems to have been).

by tyfon 9y ago

ucaetano 9y ago

> Also: are there any places that charge for births???? That sounds ridiculous and insane to me. Then the entire US healthcare system will sound ridiculous and insane to you :) And, to be honest, it is. I have American friends who had accidents while in developing countries (broke an arm in Costa Rica) and were puzzled that they were treated and didn't have to pay anything, or very little (broke feet in Croatia).

michaelchisari 9y ago

are there any places that charge for births???? That sounds ridiculous and insane to me. In the U.S., if you have decent insurance, you'll still end up paying a couple thousand or more after insurance payouts. And that's just for the birth and short (1-2 days) hospital stay. Any complications and you're potentially paying much, much more. Especially NICU, it's not unusual to pay hundreds of dollars per day of NICU care after insurance, and non-insured costs can easily end up in the tens or hundreds of thousands, and in rare situations in the millions.

vidarh 9y ago

I think you misunderstand. The restrictions in Norway are on which services private providers are licensed to provide. It's not that many years ago that private providers were unable to offer surgeries that were covered by public healthcare at all. E.g. most private providers in Norway once they started getting licensed at all only offered things like cosmetic surgery. The first private hospital in Norway wasn't started until 1985 (Ring Medisinske Senter, now Volvat) and I remember the controversy it caused, even though it's services originally were very restricted (they were "famous" early on for being the first place in Norway you could get breast enlargements, as they were not covered by public healthcare) It's been softened up gradually, but you'll note i you click around on the linked provided earlier that for many types of operations the only providers are either non-profits like LHL or government run hospitals - for some this is simply because no private providers have wanted to enter that space yet, but for others it's down to concerns about availability/training making the government hesitant to allow more providers, as described elsewhere. As I pointed out in my other reply, I'm not criticizing it (at least not as long as it is regularly evaluated for whether or not it continues to offer the best treatment options, as it seems to have been).