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Isn't the current government conservative and pro-business? If the are the ones implementing free healthcare, then why should the leftist opposition want to rem

Isn't the current government conservative and pro-business? If the are the ones implementing free healthcare, then why should the leftist opposition want to remove it? I bet they'll try to undermine it at every stage well before they ever get power. That will make it easy to kill or fix it when they do get power back.

IanDrake 9y ago
According to the article, there already is free healthcare provided by the government. The problem is that model, predictably, sucks. “Although government-run hospitals are theoretically free for everyone, the waits are long, quality is poor and corruption is endemic.” So the left doesn’t want private healthcare providers to show them up.
- wavefunction 9y ago
  "The left" makes me curious who you're referring to. Billing fraud is of course a problem with private health-care providers as well.
  - IanDrake 9y ago
    Strange that you don’t know “the left” means, but here you go... http://slideplayer.com/slide/726731/2/images/1/The+Political+Spectrum.jpg http://slideplayer.com/slide/726731/2/images/1/The+Political... I didn’t say billing fraud was a problem with government run healthcare, so I fail to understand the “as well” part of your statement.
    - freeflight 9y ago
      That doesn't mean or say anything at all, for a far more useful breakdown try this: https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 If more people would expand their horizon and realize there's more to politics than "left vs right" then all this bipartisan crap flinging might get toned down a bit.
      - dragonwriter 9y ago
        There's actually very little empirical evidence that the particular two-axis model offered by political compass (or libertarians in general) is much better at modelling real-world distribution of political ideas that the one-axis left-right model. That's not to say that there aren't other axes of variation than the left-right axis, though.
- jimjimjim 9y ago
  why did you say 'the left'? why do you see the world as two opposing sides?
  - IanDrake 9y ago
    First, read the parent comment. The parent is asking specifically about “leftist”. Second, why do I see it that way? Because at the end of the day that is a legitimate way to divide people. While some will attempt to divide people based on meaningless physical attributes, I’m dividing people based on what they think. Why on earth would that be unusual or undersireable?

IanDrake 9y ago

According to the article, there already is free healthcare provided by the government. The problem is that model, predictably, sucks. “Although government-run hospitals are theoretically free for everyone, the waits are long, quality is poor and corruption is endemic.” So the left doesn’t want private healthcare providers to show them up.

wavefunction 9y ago
"The left" makes me curious who you're referring to. Billing fraud is of course a problem with private health-care providers as well.
- IanDrake 9y ago
  Strange that you don’t know “the left” means, but here you go... http://slideplayer.com/slide/726731/2/images/1/The+Political+Spectrum.jpg http://slideplayer.com/slide/726731/2/images/1/The+Political... I didn’t say billing fraud was a problem with government run healthcare, so I fail to understand the “as well” part of your statement.
  - freeflight 9y ago
    That doesn't mean or say anything at all, for a far more useful breakdown try this: https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 If more people would expand their horizon and realize there's more to politics than "left vs right" then all this bipartisan crap flinging might get toned down a bit.
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      There's actually very little empirical evidence that the particular two-axis model offered by political compass (or libertarians in general) is much better at modelling real-world distribution of political ideas that the one-axis left-right model. That's not to say that there aren't other axes of variation than the left-right axis, though.
jimjimjim 9y ago
why did you say 'the left'? why do you see the world as two opposing sides?
- IanDrake 9y ago
  First, read the parent comment. The parent is asking specifically about “leftist”. Second, why do I see it that way? Because at the end of the day that is a legitimate way to divide people. While some will attempt to divide people based on meaningless physical attributes, I’m dividing people based on what they think. Why on earth would that be unusual or undersireable?