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You've got a point, but statistically speaking this single guy is nothing in comparision with the actual real risks other people's acts put you in every single

by stinos 9y ago

You've got a point, but statistically speaking this single guy is nothing in comparision with the actual real risks other people's acts put you in every single day. By getting in their car, on their bike, crossing you on stairs, flying planes above you, lighting candles in houses around you, ... And I'm not sure if your 'but those are accidental' argument makes sense. If the guy falls or drops something it will obviously be an accident as well. Is there really a difference between what he does and me getting on my bike and riding in the presence of pedestrians? I.e. if I really wanted to I could also walk, which would reduce the risk towards others. Should I stop riding my bike for that?

Audible_logic 9y ago
Kinda feels like a false equivalence to me. Yes, as a society we all put ourselves at risk as we drive and interact. Doesn't mean I want to be an possible participant in witnessing some adrenaline addict fall off a building. I don't want to see people die horribly in auto accidents either, but that seems like a compromise to use a car, something that actually has a use for me. Nothing about random daredevil getting a dose of adrenaline benefits me personally, so out of all of the possible horrible things that can be produced from human interaction, this one doesn't seem necessary.
- stinos 9y ago
  benefits me personally People driving around me by car (whether I'm by bike or car or ...) usually also don't benefit me personally. On the contrary. Also there's a ton of car driving going on which to me seems completely unnecessary (e.g. I know people driving to a store 3 times a week, and I know for a fact the products they buy would be just as good if only bought once a week, and I'm not even speaking about the extra emissions of the car). I actually know of accidents caused by people in perfect health which as such in my opinion could just as well have taken their bike out in the sunny weather to go to the bakery 1 kilometre from their house. Apart from that, being no stranger to extreme sports and random 'weird' behaviour myself, I also think about it in another way: what this guy does is in no way beneficial to me or you but maybe it is beneficial for him. He did this already before sharing it with millions and I'm pretty sure that is not his main driving force. 'Adrenaline addiction' or whatever you want to call it is likely pretty real from him. At least it is for me. And what happens to me mentally when I don't get my shot is not nice. So yes, this behaviour is sort of necessary to be able to function normally and feel alive. Though I do try not to things which might put other people at risk.
YeGoblynQueenne 9y ago
>> Is there really a difference between what he does and me getting on my bike and riding in the presence of pedestrians? There's a difference of scale, for sure. If you crash onto someone with your bike you won't necesarily kill them, you might not even injure them. But with what this guy is doing, one mistake means uncertain death (he will certainly die, we just don't know exactly how). Obviously, if he hits someone on the way down, that someone is also dead on the spot. I don't think that's such a big issue though. For me it's just stupid to do something that dangerous for the fame of it, especially if you risk encouraging others doing the same.

by stinos 9y ago

Audible_logic 9y ago

Kinda feels like a false equivalence to me. Yes, as a society we all put ourselves at risk as we drive and interact. Doesn't mean I want to be an possible participant in witnessing some adrenaline addict fall off a building. I don't want to see people die horribly in auto accidents either, but that seems like a compromise to use a car, something that actually has a use for me. Nothing about random daredevil getting a dose of adrenaline benefits me personally, so out of all of the possible horrible things that can be produced from human interaction, this one doesn't seem necessary.

stinos 9y ago
benefits me personally People driving around me by car (whether I'm by bike or car or ...) usually also don't benefit me personally. On the contrary. Also there's a ton of car driving going on which to me seems completely unnecessary (e.g. I know people driving to a store 3 times a week, and I know for a fact the products they buy would be just as good if only bought once a week, and I'm not even speaking about the extra emissions of the car). I actually know of accidents caused by people in perfect health which as such in my opinion could just as well have taken their bike out in the sunny weather to go to the bakery 1 kilometre from their house. Apart from that, being no stranger to extreme sports and random 'weird' behaviour myself, I also think about it in another way: what this guy does is in no way beneficial to me or you but maybe it is beneficial for him. He did this already before sharing it with millions and I'm pretty sure that is not his main driving force. 'Adrenaline addiction' or whatever you want to call it is likely pretty real from him. At least it is for me. And what happens to me mentally when I don't get my shot is not nice. So yes, this behaviour is sort of necessary to be able to function normally and feel alive. Though I do try not to things which might put other people at risk.

YeGoblynQueenne 9y ago

>> Is there really a difference between what he does and me getting on my bike and riding in the presence of pedestrians? There's a difference of scale, for sure. If you crash onto someone with your bike you won't necesarily kill them, you might not even injure them. But with what this guy is doing, one mistake means uncertain death (he will certainly die, we just don't know exactly how). Obviously, if he hits someone on the way down, that someone is also dead on the spot. I don't think that's such a big issue though. For me it's just stupid to do something that dangerous for the fame of it, especially if you risk encouraging others doing the same.