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> Most of the problems cropping up these past two years can be traced to the fact that people put the same credibility in a piece by some random person on the i

> Most of the problems cropping up these past two years can be traced to the fact that people put the same credibility in a piece by some random person on the internet as they do in one by a career journalist. Citation needed.

chatmasta 9y ago
For which part? Have you missed the whole “fake news” fiasco? People will upvote and share any article that reinforces their existing beliefs and world view. Rather than approaching articles with a healthy skepticism and critical thinking, many people are consuming content based on what “team” the author seems to be advocating for. Instead of asking questions like, “what is the author’s agenda?” or “does this author have a track record of reliability?”, people are asking “does this author believe the same things I do?” If the answer to that is “yes,” then not even a follow-up article from a Pulitzer Prize winner will be sufficient to discredit it for many people.
- fao_ 9y ago
  > People will upvote and share any article that reinforces their existing beliefs and world view. People do that with accredited news already. For example, in communist circles there is some groups that believe that no matter what, everything that Stalin did was justified. They will bring up no amount of obscure scholars, and disregard large amounts of citations from modern scholars and new evidence to protect this world view. The same goes for any world view. Look at all the people hoping against all evidence that bitcoin is a fad. Ultimately, people will do this no matter what quality of the evidence presented is (aside from one or two people who decide that they like X news source, there is a chance they will reverse with a citation from that news source, but no other, even if the quality of the evidence is the same). 'Fake news' existed long before it came to that name.
  - Density 9y ago
    Are... tankies and bit coin bubble realists on the same page to you?
    - fao_ 9y ago
      Typo. I meant the people hoping that bitcoin isn't a fad, against all evidence to the contrary.
- titanix2 9y ago
  The whole "fake news" thing is mostly one side losing an election and putting the blame on a strategy they also used for years. It doesn’t matter if the fake news comes from reputed newspapers institution or not, the media game always have been a power game and the internet is just rebalancing a scale that was heavly tipped for years towards one world view.
  - Retric 9y ago
    If you look at bias in the news it's been Republican leaning for the last 20 years. Which is what happens when someone decides to make a major news source devoted to propaganda and the other side does not. Which is really a response to how unbalanced the US political process has become. When the facts disagree with your point of view, ignore them. -> Reality now seems biased.
- azeotropic 9y ago
  Authors with a Pulitzer Prize like ... Walter Duranty?

chatmasta 9y ago

For which part? Have you missed the whole “fake news” fiasco? People will upvote and share any article that reinforces their existing beliefs and world view. Rather than approaching articles with a healthy skepticism and critical thinking, many people are consuming content based on what “team” the author seems to be advocating for. Instead of asking questions like, “what is the author’s agenda?” or “does this author have a track record of reliability?”, people are asking “does this author believe the same things I do?” If the answer to that is “yes,” then not even a follow-up article from a Pulitzer Prize winner will be sufficient to discredit it for many people.

fao_ 9y ago
> People will upvote and share any article that reinforces their existing beliefs and world view. People do that with accredited news already. For example, in communist circles there is some groups that believe that no matter what, everything that Stalin did was justified. They will bring up no amount of obscure scholars, and disregard large amounts of citations from modern scholars and new evidence to protect this world view. The same goes for any world view. Look at all the people hoping against all evidence that bitcoin is a fad. Ultimately, people will do this no matter what quality of the evidence presented is (aside from one or two people who decide that they like X news source, there is a chance they will reverse with a citation from that news source, but no other, even if the quality of the evidence is the same). 'Fake news' existed long before it came to that name.
- Density 9y ago
  Are... tankies and bit coin bubble realists on the same page to you?
  - fao_ 9y ago
    Typo. I meant the people hoping that bitcoin isn't a fad, against all evidence to the contrary.
titanix2 9y ago
The whole "fake news" thing is mostly one side losing an election and putting the blame on a strategy they also used for years. It doesn’t matter if the fake news comes from reputed newspapers institution or not, the media game always have been a power game and the internet is just rebalancing a scale that was heavly tipped for years towards one world view.
- Retric 9y ago
  If you look at bias in the news it's been Republican leaning for the last 20 years. Which is what happens when someone decides to make a major news source devoted to propaganda and the other side does not. Which is really a response to how unbalanced the US political process has become. When the facts disagree with your point of view, ignore them. -> Reality now seems biased.
azeotropic 9y ago
Authors with a Pulitzer Prize like ... Walter Duranty?