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> You can also tell companies that are getting rid of headphone jacks that you don’t like it. That your mother did not raise a fool. That aside from maybe water

> You can also tell companies that are getting rid of headphone jacks that you don’t like it. That your mother did not raise a fool. That aside from maybe water-resistance, there’s not a single good reason you can think of to give up your headphone jack. I don't understand how people can just accept this change. Why would you pay for a shittier experience? I feel like people get outraged by the stupidest things these days. But when it comes to issues that will actually affect them in their everyday life, most people don't seem to give a shit.

empath75 9y ago
If it actually affected them, they’ll absolutely complain. Most people just don’t care about the headphone jack. My car has usb, and I rarely use headphones and I like the airpods just fine.
jmmcd 9y ago
People don't care about the headphone jack enough to demand it. There may be a few people like the author here, but saying this -- > Tell them you see what they’re up to, and you don’t like it. You can say this part slightly deeper, through gritted teeth, if you get to say it aloud. Or, just italicize it so they know you are serious. -- is implicitly admitting defeat. Saying these loudly and italicizing in rants on social media won't change profit-driven decisions!
gambiting 9y ago
I was just looking for a replacement phone, and was told by multiple techy people that I should give up looking for a phone with a headphone jack, customers clearly voted with their wallets and it's a done deal now. I'm like....when did this happen? Two years-and-a-half ago, when I bought my last phone, there were no phones with no headphone jack - now, barely any time later, it's a "done deal"?? Are you kidding me? When was I supposed to "vote with my wallet", even if I wanted to? I guess I did in the end, because I bought the OnePlus 5T almost specifically because of the headphone jack, but this whole thing is beyond stupid. I'm normally not a fan of conspiracy theories, but I wouldn't be surprised if the removal of the headphone jack on the iphone was actually an attempt to make sure more people have bluetooth on so they can be tracked in shops using the bluetooth beacon tracking.
- KozmoNau7 9y ago
  Those people were idiots, then. Samsung S8 (and S8+) has a headphone jack (and comes with a very nice AKG headset). Really, it's only Apple and Google who are really doubling down on having no headphone jack, and probably because they want to push their own assistant-enabled/burdened headphones.
- corobo 9y ago
  I went with an iPhone SE because a) headphone jack b) it isn't a huge surfboard of a thing I hope there's another small but beefy phone when I next come to switch. Honestly I'd even sacrifice the 3.5mm jack for a smaller (but still useful) smartphone
ginko 9y ago
It's like with the switch from 4:3 aspect ratio to wide screen (first 16:10, then 16:9) in computer displays. I'm still mad about that one.
- ClassyJacket 9y ago
  Wow, I finally found the one other person that thinks screens are too wide! If you look it up, the human field of view is actually approximately 4:3... you know, like old monitors.
- KozmoNau7 9y ago
  It was a bit annoying until displays with reasonable vertical resolution became widely available. There were way too many displays with shitty low resolution, but you only get those in the shittiest bargain-basement monitors now. I'm using a 27" 1440p monitor at home (bought it ~4 years ago), and it has plenty of space to comfortably show two full-size pages side by side, with plenty of space left over for toolbars and such. Or two 1280x1440 windows, which is a very handy size, giving me the equivalent of two portrait-mode monitors. Most modern WMs (and even Windows!) have window snapping/tiling that makes this very easy (win+arrows). Aspect ratio isn't really an issue anymore, as long as you have enough vertical resolution, and the additional horizontal space is nice for tool windows and such.
- DomreiRoam 9y ago
  It's expensive but I like it: http://www.eizoglobal.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/index.html http://www.eizoglobal.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/index.ht... . It s crazy how nice it is to have so much vertical space.
rimliu 9y ago
For me the experience is way better when wires are gone.
rsynnott 9y ago
You're surprised that people aren't getting outraged by very minor inconveniences caused by design changes in consumer electronics?
- executesorder66 9y ago
  It's more the fact that I'm surprised that this is only a minor inconvenience to a lot of people.

empath75 9y ago

If it actually affected them, they’ll absolutely complain. Most people just don’t care about the headphone jack. My car has usb, and I rarely use headphones and I like the airpods just fine.

jmmcd 9y ago

People don't care about the headphone jack enough to demand it. There may be a few people like the author here, but saying this -- > Tell them you see what they’re up to, and you don’t like it. You can say this part slightly deeper, through gritted teeth, if you get to say it aloud. Or, just italicize it so they know you are serious. -- is implicitly admitting defeat. Saying these loudly and italicizing in rants on social media won't change profit-driven decisions!

gambiting 9y ago

I was just looking for a replacement phone, and was told by multiple techy people that I should give up looking for a phone with a headphone jack, customers clearly voted with their wallets and it's a done deal now. I'm like....when did this happen? Two years-and-a-half ago, when I bought my last phone, there were no phones with no headphone jack - now, barely any time later, it's a "done deal"?? Are you kidding me? When was I supposed to "vote with my wallet", even if I wanted to? I guess I did in the end, because I bought the OnePlus 5T almost specifically because of the headphone jack, but this whole thing is beyond stupid. I'm normally not a fan of conspiracy theories, but I wouldn't be surprised if the removal of the headphone jack on the iphone was actually an attempt to make sure more people have bluetooth on so they can be tracked in shops using the bluetooth beacon tracking.

KozmoNau7 9y ago
Those people were idiots, then. Samsung S8 (and S8+) has a headphone jack (and comes with a very nice AKG headset). Really, it's only Apple and Google who are really doubling down on having no headphone jack, and probably because they want to push their own assistant-enabled/burdened headphones.
corobo 9y ago
I went with an iPhone SE because a) headphone jack b) it isn't a huge surfboard of a thing I hope there's another small but beefy phone when I next come to switch. Honestly I'd even sacrifice the 3.5mm jack for a smaller (but still useful) smartphone

ginko 9y ago

It's like with the switch from 4:3 aspect ratio to wide screen (first 16:10, then 16:9) in computer displays. I'm still mad about that one.

ClassyJacket 9y ago
Wow, I finally found the one other person that thinks screens are too wide! If you look it up, the human field of view is actually approximately 4:3... you know, like old monitors.
KozmoNau7 9y ago
It was a bit annoying until displays with reasonable vertical resolution became widely available. There were way too many displays with shitty low resolution, but you only get those in the shittiest bargain-basement monitors now. I'm using a 27" 1440p monitor at home (bought it ~4 years ago), and it has plenty of space to comfortably show two full-size pages side by side, with plenty of space left over for toolbars and such. Or two 1280x1440 windows, which is a very handy size, giving me the equivalent of two portrait-mode monitors. Most modern WMs (and even Windows!) have window snapping/tiling that makes this very easy (win+arrows). Aspect ratio isn't really an issue anymore, as long as you have enough vertical resolution, and the additional horizontal space is nice for tool windows and such.
DomreiRoam 9y ago
It's expensive but I like it: http://www.eizoglobal.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/index.html http://www.eizoglobal.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/index.ht... . It s crazy how nice it is to have so much vertical space.

rimliu 9y ago

For me the experience is way better when wires are gone.

rsynnott 9y ago

You're surprised that people aren't getting outraged by very minor inconveniences caused by design changes in consumer electronics?

executesorder66 9y ago
It's more the fact that I'm surprised that this is only a minor inconvenience to a lot of people.