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GTK+ gets CSS style theming

41 points by junkbit 16y ago

Zak 16y ago
Great in concept, but copying from CSS itself seems like a bad idea. The lack of abstraction can lead to some really inelegant stylesheets or necessitate writing the stylesheet in another language and generating CSS with a compiler. The lack of conditionals and variables is, to my way of thinking the most significant limitation.
KeithMajhor 16y ago
This change seems very much in line with the GNOME philosophy. It would _greatly_ simplify theme creation.
makmanalp 16y ago
Shameless plug to my favorite toolkit: Qt has had this for ages now: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.6/stylesheet.html http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.6/stylesheet.html The Qt guys also have been trying to take this a step further with the declarative UI / QML (basically a tiny DSL for UIs) project: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/05/13/qt-declarative-ui/ http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/05/13/qt-declarative-ui...
- omouse 16y ago
  by 'ages' you mean 1 year?
  - icefox 16y ago
    Try Qt 4.2 which was released October 4, 2006 and thats not even to mention the fact that you could use it for months before that. http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/qt4-2-intro.html#widget-style-sheets http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/qt4-2-intro.html#widget-style-s...
    - krainboltgreene 16y ago
      When did 4 years become "ages"?
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    - Locke1689 16y ago
      @krainboltgreene I don't know, I think that's a reasonably long period of time in graphics framework development.
- ramidarigaz 16y ago
  I love Qt. My current project at work is all Qt, and it is so, so easy. After Gtk (no offense to those guys), Qt is fun.
houseabsolute 16y ago
. . . and still look horrible. You can't say that here! But the screenshot makes it pretty clear. Edit: that's the default engine, as it says in the blog post. I still think GTK looks awful, but this is not really good evidence.
- ataranto 16y ago
  GTK+ doesn't "look" like anything. Themes and engines do though. Is that your complaint?
  - houseabsolute 16y ago
    Technicalities and semantics. The only thing that matters is what I'm presented with as a user, and what I get when I use it does not look good.
- naner 16y ago
  Yeah the default look is crap. We don't have a lot of options on Linux, though. Qt doesn't have many good themes either and it doesn't feel as nice as GTK. Enlightenment feels really quirky and unpolished.
krainboltgreene 16y ago
I can understand adding stylesheets to GUI. That makes sense, perfect sense even. But to copy all the flaws of CSS as well?

41 points by junkbit 16y ago

Zak 16y ago

Great in concept, but copying from CSS itself seems like a bad idea. The lack of abstraction can lead to some really inelegant stylesheets or necessitate writing the stylesheet in another language and generating CSS with a compiler. The lack of conditionals and variables is, to my way of thinking the most significant limitation.

KeithMajhor 16y ago

This change seems very much in line with the GNOME philosophy. It would _greatly_ simplify theme creation.

makmanalp 16y ago

Shameless plug to my favorite toolkit: Qt has had this for ages now: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.6/stylesheet.html http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.6/stylesheet.html The Qt guys also have been trying to take this a step further with the declarative UI / QML (basically a tiny DSL for UIs) project: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/05/13/qt-declarative-ui/ http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/05/13/qt-declarative-ui...

omouse 16y ago
by 'ages' you mean 1 year?
- icefox 16y ago
  Try Qt 4.2 which was released October 4, 2006 and thats not even to mention the fact that you could use it for months before that. http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/qt4-2-intro.html#widget-style-sheets http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/qt4-2-intro.html#widget-style-s...
  - krainboltgreene 16y ago
    When did 4 years become "ages"?
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  - Locke1689 16y ago
    @krainboltgreene I don't know, I think that's a reasonably long period of time in graphics framework development.
ramidarigaz 16y ago
I love Qt. My current project at work is all Qt, and it is so, so easy. After Gtk (no offense to those guys), Qt is fun.

houseabsolute 16y ago

. . . and still look horrible. You can't say that here! But the screenshot makes it pretty clear. Edit: that's the default engine, as it says in the blog post. I still think GTK looks awful, but this is not really good evidence.

ataranto 16y ago
GTK+ doesn't "look" like anything. Themes and engines do though. Is that your complaint?
- houseabsolute 16y ago
  Technicalities and semantics. The only thing that matters is what I'm presented with as a user, and what I get when I use it does not look good.
naner 16y ago
Yeah the default look is crap. We don't have a lot of options on Linux, though. Qt doesn't have many good themes either and it doesn't feel as nice as GTK. Enlightenment feels really quirky and unpolished.

krainboltgreene 16y ago

I can understand adding stylesheets to GUI. That makes sense, perfect sense even. But to copy all the flaws of CSS as well?