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There does not exist a world where this is still playing the game for me. This sport should be called "hack run" and be considered different from traditional pl

There does not exist a world where this is still playing the game for me. This sport should be called "hack run" and be considered different from traditional playing the game. When I play the game with friends and family the skill is in using to the best of our ability the naturally perceived rules of the game. Using your controller to input bits of data directly into the memory using a bug in the software is completely different sport.

eugeniub 9y ago
Yeah, it's very interesting to learn that you can inject arbitrary code into the game through the controller, but the title gave me a very different expectation for the video.
- ubernostrum 9y ago
  As others point out, game speedruns track a lot of categories. For Super Mario World, for example, records are tracked for with/without glitches, pure-human play versus tool-assisted, how much of the game is played through (since even without glitches there are ways to complete the game without playing all levels), etc. The current record for playing all 96 levels of the game is, according to speedrun.com, 1:22:21.310. Here's the video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW7BMsifUBc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW7BMsifUBc
wmeredith 9y ago
Agreed. This is certainly something, maybe even something interesting. But it's not beating the "game". Hell, it's not even playing the game.
fanzhang 9y ago
To be fair I think there is a subculture where a hack run with hands under 1 minute is considered an accomplishment.
flgr 9y ago
There are different categories for speedruns. This is any%. There's usually a "no major glitches" category, which shows more of the main game. In SMW this is called either 96 exits or 11 exits. Those are actually the default categories that are most heavily run from what it looks like. See http://speedrun.com/smw http://speedrun.com/smw
- flgr 9y ago
  Or phrased differently: There are different kinds of art. You might not like each and every single type of art, but they're still part of art.
  - ahdroit 9y ago
    is art defined by intent or interpretation?
    - MR_FEET 9y ago
      both, sometimes simultaneously
    - tinus_hn 9y ago
      You can never really know another persons intent, you can only guess at it.
zkomp 9y ago
This is still playing the game / i.e executing the instructions. Exactly the same instructions on same hardware that were distributed to everyone... This is just the extreme form of the fastest way to complete the game, using the (broken) logic of the game itself. Exactly the same situation as comparing play at home with kids to any elite world record setting play in the same game... "This world cup is not at all how I play at home ..."

eugeniub 9y ago

Yeah, it's very interesting to learn that you can inject arbitrary code into the game through the controller, but the title gave me a very different expectation for the video.

ubernostrum 9y ago
As others point out, game speedruns track a lot of categories. For Super Mario World, for example, records are tracked for with/without glitches, pure-human play versus tool-assisted, how much of the game is played through (since even without glitches there are ways to complete the game without playing all levels), etc. The current record for playing all 96 levels of the game is, according to speedrun.com, 1:22:21.310. Here's the video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW7BMsifUBc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW7BMsifUBc

wmeredith 9y ago

Agreed. This is certainly something, maybe even something interesting. But it's not beating the "game". Hell, it's not even playing the game.

fanzhang 9y ago

To be fair I think there is a subculture where a hack run with hands under 1 minute is considered an accomplishment.

flgr 9y ago

There are different categories for speedruns. This is any%. There's usually a "no major glitches" category, which shows more of the main game. In SMW this is called either 96 exits or 11 exits. Those are actually the default categories that are most heavily run from what it looks like. See http://speedrun.com/smw http://speedrun.com/smw

flgr 9y ago
Or phrased differently: There are different kinds of art. You might not like each and every single type of art, but they're still part of art.
- ahdroit 9y ago
  is art defined by intent or interpretation?
  - MR_FEET 9y ago
    both, sometimes simultaneously
  - tinus_hn 9y ago
    You can never really know another persons intent, you can only guess at it.

zkomp 9y ago

This is still playing the game / i.e executing the instructions. Exactly the same instructions on same hardware that were distributed to everyone... This is just the extreme form of the fastest way to complete the game, using the (broken) logic of the game itself. Exactly the same situation as comparing play at home with kids to any elite world record setting play in the same game... "This world cup is not at all how I play at home ..."