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In another thread here we are learning how much of this "daily active users" is actually bots run by corporations. I for myself have shown myself out of Facebo
by bigheadpercoli 9y ago
In another thread here we are learning how much of this "daily active users" is actually bots run by corporations.
I for myself have shown myself out of Facebook and enjoy real live interactions with human beings like it's the '90s.
- pfarnsworth 9y agoBut in the 90s we were all watching 4-6 hrs of TV a day.
- mtkd 9y agoIt was a generic 4-6, not targeted, neither was it profiling you while you watched it
- jlardinois 9y agoTelevision programming has been profiled and targeted for decades. It just wasn't as granular and accurate as it is on the web.
- IntronExon 9y agoWhile true, that kind of understatement seems calculated to miss the point. FB is targeting the individual, tv targeted entire demographics. It is a poor comparison.
- askafriend 9y agoCounterpoint: I'd rather see Ads about things I'm interested in than things I'm not interested in. So by that metric, Facebook is far better than generic Ads I see on TV.
- IntronExon 9y agoThat’s a non sequitor, not a counterpoint to the matter of how manipulative and effective from the POV of the advertiser ads are today vs on tv.
- DashRattlesnake 9y ago> I'd rather see Ads about things I'm interested in than things I'm not interested in. You're not going to see more ads about the things you're interested in, you're going to see ads that have a higher potential to manipulate you into commercially profitable behavior. There's a big but subtle difference between those things. You are definitely not going to see ads for your interests that bring you more joy but aren't easily monetizeable. The coarseness of TV targeting meant people had more opportunity to assert their own priorities against the less effective manipulation.
- askafriend 9y agoIs your argument that if an ad works I am being manipulated, and if it doesn't work then I am not being manipulated? I'm telling you right now that I don't mind seeing Ads on Instagram. They're great and I've found out about niche products that I otherwise would not have. If this means that small brands are able to rise up against the mega corps (Dollar Shave Club vs Gillette, as a classic example), then all the better for the market. The other reason I don't mind is that they're visually appealing and seem to fit the Instagram ethos. Compare that to shitty banner Ads that disrupt the flow of content by being so different and so jarring in comparison. Now, my opinion isn't meant to be generalized. Others may have a far different experience on Instagram (just because of how the product is designed to work). I'm sure there is someone who will chime in and say they hate Instagram Ads because they are completely ineffective. We could both be right in opposite directions since our feeds are probably very different.
- IntronExon 9y agoIf your opinion isn’t generalizable, it’s probably not useful in a discussion about civilization-wide issues, right? Moreover you’re only sharing your perception of how ads affect you, while others are pointing to known effects on whole populations. In essence you’re arguing against a system worth many billions with your own personal anecdote.
- bigheadpercoli 9y agoI surely wasn't. I fondly remember my Quake 2 LAN Parties.
- drharby 9y agoD O U B L E KIILLLL
- AznHisoka 9y agoIt was good family TV though! Like Family Matters and Full House!