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> One could argue the same about AWS for a long time Yes, and it took them years to get it right. Which means Google is years behind, and doesn't have the bene

by zapita 9y ago

> One could argue the same about AWS for a long time Yes, and it took them years to get it right. Which means Google is years behind, and doesn't have the benefit of a forgiving early market. > Google has gotten way better in this regard, and are hiring like mad. I wouldn’t presume the above is true any longer. Let's hope so for their sake. Personally I'll believe it when I see it. You can hire all the sales reps you want... If your top leadership doesn't understand or respect enterprise buyers, or know how to scale the entreprise distribution "machine", then it won't matter. I've spoken to several enterprise IT buyers - commanding billions of dollars in aggregate budget - comparing the benefits of AWS and Azure. When I asked them "what about Google Cloud", the room burst out laughing. This happened several times.

parasubvert 9y ago
> Let's hope so for their sake. Personally I'll believe it when I see it. You can hire all the sales reps you want... If your top leadership doesn't understand or respect enterprise buyers, or know how to scale the entreprise distribution "machine", then it won't matter. Diane Greene knows the enterprise... she has hired an experienced team on the product, sales, and marketing side. > I've spoken to several enterprise IT buyers - commanding billions of dollars in aggregate budget - comparing the benefits of AWS and Azure. When I asked them "what about Google Cloud", the room burst out laughing. This happened several times. I too can play the anecdote game - I have senior relationships with at least a few major international banks with aggregate budgets in the billions, and they are betting on GCP. I also know a very large bank betting on AWS, and a couple are straddling the fence with multi-cloud between their on-prem, Azure, and GCP. I see Azure commitments in a big way in insurance. Of course, it depends what you're trying to do as to which cloud is the better fit. We saved a pile of money moving our AWS workloads to GCP and got better performance for it. I think laughing at Google is a mistake, but clearly they have work to do.
- zapita 9y ago
  > I have senior relationships with at least a few major international banks with aggregate budgets in the billions, and they are betting on GCP If several banks are in fact betting on GCP as a primary provider, that would be encouraging news. I will believe it when I see it! Do you expect any of them to be referenceable anytime soon? By the way: I myself think GCP is great, and I use it for various non-enterprise projects. It looks like we agree that they have a lot of work to do.
  - parasubvert 9y ago
    There are a couple that are public (ie. conference talks and/or tweets) about their use I believe but likely aren’t references... only one I see on GCP’s website is a subsidiary of BNP Paribas. That said, take a look at Google Summit Toronto’s schedule, or a glance on YouTube for google cloud banking for another.
user5994461 9y ago
They are on-par on all the IaaS offerings. The Amazon has more products is an outdated meme, they have lots of renamed and minor products. Big companies might not adopt Google Cloud for a variety of reasons. Small and medium companies should have a look, it can be easier to manage and much cheaper.

by zapita 9y ago

parasubvert 9y ago

> Let's hope so for their sake. Personally I'll believe it when I see it. You can hire all the sales reps you want... If your top leadership doesn't understand or respect enterprise buyers, or know how to scale the entreprise distribution "machine", then it won't matter. Diane Greene knows the enterprise... she has hired an experienced team on the product, sales, and marketing side. > I've spoken to several enterprise IT buyers - commanding billions of dollars in aggregate budget - comparing the benefits of AWS and Azure. When I asked them "what about Google Cloud", the room burst out laughing. This happened several times. I too can play the anecdote game - I have senior relationships with at least a few major international banks with aggregate budgets in the billions, and they are betting on GCP. I also know a very large bank betting on AWS, and a couple are straddling the fence with multi-cloud between their on-prem, Azure, and GCP. I see Azure commitments in a big way in insurance. Of course, it depends what you're trying to do as to which cloud is the better fit. We saved a pile of money moving our AWS workloads to GCP and got better performance for it. I think laughing at Google is a mistake, but clearly they have work to do.

zapita 9y ago
> I have senior relationships with at least a few major international banks with aggregate budgets in the billions, and they are betting on GCP If several banks are in fact betting on GCP as a primary provider, that would be encouraging news. I will believe it when I see it! Do you expect any of them to be referenceable anytime soon? By the way: I myself think GCP is great, and I use it for various non-enterprise projects. It looks like we agree that they have a lot of work to do.
- parasubvert 9y ago
  There are a couple that are public (ie. conference talks and/or tweets) about their use I believe but likely aren’t references... only one I see on GCP’s website is a subsidiary of BNP Paribas. That said, take a look at Google Summit Toronto’s schedule, or a glance on YouTube for google cloud banking for another.

user5994461 9y ago

They are on-par on all the IaaS offerings. The Amazon has more products is an outdated meme, they have lots of renamed and minor products. Big companies might not adopt Google Cloud for a variety of reasons. Small and medium companies should have a look, it can be easier to manage and much cheaper.