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Okay fine. Just don't call it motor racing then. Given that the cars are obviously running in some artificially crippled state compared to the 'boosted' car. Ca

Okay fine. Just don't call it motor racing then. Given that the cars are obviously running in some artificially crippled state compared to the 'boosted' car. Call it ... Car-big-brother or something instead :p

ricardobeat 9y ago
The cars’ power output is electronically limited, this limit is raised during the 5s of boost. The same thing could be done for normal F1 cars - for example, by raising the RPM limit, power output or drag reduction for a few seconds. In fact, with KERS, F1 drivers already have the same kind of boost but without the voting.
- isfield 9y ago
  Sure. The voting aspect is my big gripe though. Without the voting they don't need the limiter. If the dumped the voting and allowed teams to innovate battery I'd be ALL OVER IT but they need dump the voting aspect like-right-now.
  - sbarre 9y ago
    Like I commented elsewhere, you're making a big deal out of basically nothing. FanBoost is a gimmick, and even F-E management acknowledges that it has virtually zero impact on the race itself. It's a 5-second ~5% power boost.. That's not going to change anything, and neither would letting the cars run at 5% more power in general without it.. I am sure that teams are innovating battery and motor just fine even with this minor limitation.. Don't you think if FanBoost was actually crippling or limiting innovation in the way you're assuming, the teams would cry foul? That kind of counter-productive decision would go against one of the main reasons they do these racing leagues (to innovate!). As an aside, all motor racing is "crippled", as you put it, by rules and regulations designed to provide a reasonably level playing field. Even Formula 1 has all kinds of limiting rules and guidelines that prevent teams from simply building the fastest/lightest/most powerful cars they can possibly design, and that's intentional.
    - rasz 9y ago
      So all the smart people know this is a scam played on uneducated redneck masses in order to grow following. I bet nothing can go wrong with building your fan base out of idiots.
      - ricardobeat 9y ago
        I haven't even watched any F-E race at all, but am a bit bothered by your comment. What makes it a scam? It's all fully laid out, and there is a (small) chance the voters can actually impact the results of the race as suggested.
  - TallGuyShort 9y ago
    Generally speaking, I agree with what you're saying - I think FanBoost is stupid. BUT - the limit would still be there. They limit the RPM, etc. in the petrol cars for other reasons too. I think this is a really small impact on how "crippled" the cars are.
mikey_p 9y ago
I wouldn't get worked up about things being 'limited' when virtually all race cars are limited in some form. F1 has fuel flow restrictions and rev restrictions (which can't be reached due to the fuel flow requirement). Nascar has restrictor plates. LMP2 and 3 both have displacement restrictions. Indycar has rev restrictions. Unlimited racing basically becomes a bloodbath and a contest of who has the most money (which is a problem that F1 still has). Yes, fan boost is a gimmick, but don't get too upset about the purity of 'artificially crippled' racing.
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ricardobeat 9y ago

The cars’ power output is electronically limited, this limit is raised during the 5s of boost. The same thing could be done for normal F1 cars - for example, by raising the RPM limit, power output or drag reduction for a few seconds. In fact, with KERS, F1 drivers already have the same kind of boost but without the voting.

isfield 9y ago
Sure. The voting aspect is my big gripe though. Without the voting they don't need the limiter. If the dumped the voting and allowed teams to innovate battery I'd be ALL OVER IT but they need dump the voting aspect like-right-now.
- sbarre 9y ago
  Like I commented elsewhere, you're making a big deal out of basically nothing. FanBoost is a gimmick, and even F-E management acknowledges that it has virtually zero impact on the race itself. It's a 5-second ~5% power boost.. That's not going to change anything, and neither would letting the cars run at 5% more power in general without it.. I am sure that teams are innovating battery and motor just fine even with this minor limitation.. Don't you think if FanBoost was actually crippling or limiting innovation in the way you're assuming, the teams would cry foul? That kind of counter-productive decision would go against one of the main reasons they do these racing leagues (to innovate!). As an aside, all motor racing is "crippled", as you put it, by rules and regulations designed to provide a reasonably level playing field. Even Formula 1 has all kinds of limiting rules and guidelines that prevent teams from simply building the fastest/lightest/most powerful cars they can possibly design, and that's intentional.
  - rasz 9y ago
    So all the smart people know this is a scam played on uneducated redneck masses in order to grow following. I bet nothing can go wrong with building your fan base out of idiots.
    - ricardobeat 9y ago
      I haven't even watched any F-E race at all, but am a bit bothered by your comment. What makes it a scam? It's all fully laid out, and there is a (small) chance the voters can actually impact the results of the race as suggested.
- TallGuyShort 9y ago
  Generally speaking, I agree with what you're saying - I think FanBoost is stupid. BUT - the limit would still be there. They limit the RPM, etc. in the petrol cars for other reasons too. I think this is a really small impact on how "crippled" the cars are.

mikey_p 9y ago

I wouldn't get worked up about things being 'limited' when virtually all race cars are limited in some form. F1 has fuel flow restrictions and rev restrictions (which can't be reached due to the fuel flow requirement). Nascar has restrictor plates. LMP2 and 3 both have displacement restrictions. Indycar has rev restrictions. Unlimited racing basically becomes a bloodbath and a contest of who has the most money (which is a problem that F1 still has). Yes, fan boost is a gimmick, but don't get too upset about the purity of 'artificially crippled' racing.

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