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Not surprised. Ryzen was a hit and their GPUs are great for Linux and mining.

madengr 9y ago
I think AMD GPUs are crap; at least their windows drivers. I recently built a gaming PC (MSI RX-580 GPU) for my son, and never had so many frustrating crashes, black screens, etc. Waited for a month for their 5.18 driver release, and no improvement. What a piece of shit. Sold it on eBay in 30 seconds for $40 more than I paid for it, and bought an Nvidia 1060; works flawlessly. The guy I sold it to said the RX-580 is working fine for mining. He got a card for $300 and I got rid of a headache.
- m-p-3 9y ago
  > 5.18 driver release? How many years ago was this? The latest AMD Adrenalin drivers are at 18.1.1. Oh and on Linux the open-source AMDGPU drivers (made by AMD themselves) are now part of the kernel since not too long ago, so any recent cards will work out of the box on a distro with a recent kernel.
  - madengr 9y ago
    Well 18 whatever; that was released after the 12/17 release. Fuck AMD. Good riddance.
  - dragontamer 9y ago
    AMD's driver scheme is basically year.month.something I haven't figured out the last number. But the 18.1.1 release basically means "2018 January". Similarly, their 17.7 release meant "2017 July". 5.18 seems to predate AMD's current naming scheme. So it was probably something from a long time ago...
- Yizahi 9y ago
  I had good PSU, MB, mostly clean OS install and no overclock and my AMD card run like clockwork, with zero issues over 3 or 4 years. Literally zero crashes while running almost 24/7 and gaming regularly. Don't skimp on important PC parts and install crapware and you see that both manufacturers produce pretty decent software (putting shady marketing practices aside, like internet account requirement to update geforce driver or raptr-craptr on amd, just from pure tech point of view).
- dragontamer 9y ago
  I think your unnecessarily caustic words are reason enough for your downvotes. That kind of language isn't really welcome in ycombinator. This isn't Reddit: there's an expectation for a higher-class of discussion. With that being said: the 17.12 update, aka Adrenaline December 2017, on Windows, broke DirectX9 and also broke a few OpenGL games. AMD suffered a major PR hit over the winter-break when a few forum moderators said things they shouldn't have said about this issue (which was eventually fixed when the executives returned to work after the New Year and performed PR Damage Control). So there's a lot of latent anger in the gamer community around AMD Drivers right now. With that said: it isn't too difficult to roll back to an earlier update in these cases, but AMD did release a DirectX9 fix by the next month (January 2018). The OpenGL issues seem to still be a known issue, and that's why a number of people are remaining on 17.7.
- admax88q 9y ago
  The experience can't possibly be that bad for everyone. Some other factor must have been at play with your setup.
- jhasse 9y ago
  At least you don't need to register with a Facebook account to use all of the driver's features.
- Zardoz84 9y ago
  my rx580 is working flawless on Windows and Linux. Perhaps your computer have a problem.
eloff 9y ago
I had no end of issues with Nvidia cards on Linux, I had to buy a ridiculously expensive AMD GPU (thanks crypto miners!) which has since been rock solid. I needed monster card that can drive four 1920x2160 displays, and the liquid-cooled fury didn't dissapoint (plus it's nice and quiet.)
- sundvor 9y ago
  4x 1920x2160 ... is that the same as 2x 4k screens? My 1080TI is only reasonably happy to run 1920x1200x2 (60hz) + 3440x1440 (95hz); it won't fully idle the clocks, resulting in higher temps.
  - eloff 9y ago
    Yeah, it's really 2 4k screens in picture by picture mode making them 4 individual displays to the computer, with 4 cables. I find that gives me more usable real estate than 2 4K screens because of the way it's easier to maximize windows and place them side by side.

I think AMD GPUs are crap; at least their windows drivers. I recently built a gaming PC (MSI RX-580 GPU) for my son, and never had so many frustrating crashes, black screens, etc. Waited for a month for their 5.18 driver release, and no improvement. What a piece of shit. Sold it on eBay in 30 seconds for $40 more than I paid for it, and bought an Nvidia 1060; works flawlessly. The guy I sold it to said the RX-580 is working fine for mining. He got a card for $300 and I got rid of a headache.

m-p-3 9y ago
> 5.18 driver release? How many years ago was this? The latest AMD Adrenalin drivers are at 18.1.1. Oh and on Linux the open-source AMDGPU drivers (made by AMD themselves) are now part of the kernel since not too long ago, so any recent cards will work out of the box on a distro with a recent kernel.
- madengr 9y ago
  Well 18 whatever; that was released after the 12/17 release. Fuck AMD. Good riddance.
- dragontamer 9y ago
  AMD's driver scheme is basically year.month.something I haven't figured out the last number. But the 18.1.1 release basically means "2018 January". Similarly, their 17.7 release meant "2017 July". 5.18 seems to predate AMD's current naming scheme. So it was probably something from a long time ago...
Yizahi 9y ago
I had good PSU, MB, mostly clean OS install and no overclock and my AMD card run like clockwork, with zero issues over 3 or 4 years. Literally zero crashes while running almost 24/7 and gaming regularly. Don't skimp on important PC parts and install crapware and you see that both manufacturers produce pretty decent software (putting shady marketing practices aside, like internet account requirement to update geforce driver or raptr-craptr on amd, just from pure tech point of view).
dragontamer 9y ago
I think your unnecessarily caustic words are reason enough for your downvotes. That kind of language isn't really welcome in ycombinator. This isn't Reddit: there's an expectation for a higher-class of discussion. With that being said: the 17.12 update, aka Adrenaline December 2017, on Windows, broke DirectX9 and also broke a few OpenGL games. AMD suffered a major PR hit over the winter-break when a few forum moderators said things they shouldn't have said about this issue (which was eventually fixed when the executives returned to work after the New Year and performed PR Damage Control). So there's a lot of latent anger in the gamer community around AMD Drivers right now. With that said: it isn't too difficult to roll back to an earlier update in these cases, but AMD did release a DirectX9 fix by the next month (January 2018). The OpenGL issues seem to still be a known issue, and that's why a number of people are remaining on 17.7.
admax88q 9y ago
The experience can't possibly be that bad for everyone. Some other factor must have been at play with your setup.
jhasse 9y ago
At least you don't need to register with a Facebook account to use all of the driver's features.
Zardoz84 9y ago
my rx580 is working flawless on Windows and Linux. Perhaps your computer have a problem.

eloff 9y ago

I had no end of issues with Nvidia cards on Linux, I had to buy a ridiculously expensive AMD GPU (thanks crypto miners!) which has since been rock solid. I needed monster card that can drive four 1920x2160 displays, and the liquid-cooled fury didn't dissapoint (plus it's nice and quiet.)

sundvor 9y ago
4x 1920x2160 ... is that the same as 2x 4k screens? My 1080TI is only reasonably happy to run 1920x1200x2 (60hz) + 3440x1440 (95hz); it won't fully idle the clocks, resulting in higher temps.
- eloff 9y ago
  Yeah, it's really 2 4k screens in picture by picture mode making them 4 individual displays to the computer, with 4 cables. I find that gives me more usable real estate than 2 4K screens because of the way it's easier to maximize windows and place them side by side.