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I really hate the term "fake news". It implies that someone created the whole story on purpose to deceive people. I think the "bad UI" thing was just someone

I really hate the term "fake news". It implies that someone created the whole story on purpose to deceive people. I think the "bad UI" thing was just someone trying to figure out what really happened and noticed that the webpage for the alerts was atrocious. They incorrectly thought that this could have been the reason for the mistake. By no means was it fake, rather it was simply a mistake. There's nothing malicious about that.

glenneroo 9y ago
The screenshot was not a real screenshot. As a result, all news about "bad UI" could be considered to some degree fake, since it was based on fake screenshots.
- shepardrtc 9y ago
  After looking into it some more, it appears as though that screenshot was an attempt to simulate what the user may have seen because the agency did not release any sort of official images. Anecdotal evidence led everyone to speculate on what the "bad UI" may have looked like. I still wouldn't call it "fake news", just a half-assed attempt to try to mock-up what the operator saw with little information. Its bad journalism (and should be called out as such!) but its not malicious. And that's why I hate the term "fake news" so much: it carries a negative overtone but it can applied to ineptitude and/or stupidity. Seeing as ineptitude and stupidity are rampant in life, assigning malice to them could be used as a rhetorical technique by a bad actor. For example, a politician wanting to bring down news groups that don't support him/her could say that all news is "fake news" and offer up examples such as the "bad ui".
dboreham 9y ago
I think it is worse than that because the screen shot originated with the Hawaii state government, but it turns out to be not genuine, AND they took no steps to debunk the resulting widely circulated stories that bad UI had been the root cause. http://www.ajc.com/news/national/photo-hawaii-missile-warning-system-was-fake-officials-say/L9A1wQTNVRpGMcKupM61YJ/ http://www.ajc.com/news/national/photo-hawaii-missile-warnin...
xupybd 9y ago
>I really hate the term "fake news". It implies that someone created the whole story on purpose to deceive people No it just means someone published the story without proper fact checking.
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- mortehu 9y ago
  Back in 2016 it meant fabricated news, usually about politics. Donald Trump started abusing the term not long after it was revealed that the fabricated news at the time was mostly successful in targeting his followers, presumably to dilute the term. See https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XoLHF3Z9eMg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XoLHF3Z9eMg or Google "Jestin Coler"
  - xupybd 9y ago
    I stand corrected.

glenneroo 9y ago

The screenshot was not a real screenshot. As a result, all news about "bad UI" could be considered to some degree fake, since it was based on fake screenshots.

shepardrtc 9y ago
After looking into it some more, it appears as though that screenshot was an attempt to simulate what the user may have seen because the agency did not release any sort of official images. Anecdotal evidence led everyone to speculate on what the "bad UI" may have looked like. I still wouldn't call it "fake news", just a half-assed attempt to try to mock-up what the operator saw with little information. Its bad journalism (and should be called out as such!) but its not malicious. And that's why I hate the term "fake news" so much: it carries a negative overtone but it can applied to ineptitude and/or stupidity. Seeing as ineptitude and stupidity are rampant in life, assigning malice to them could be used as a rhetorical technique by a bad actor. For example, a politician wanting to bring down news groups that don't support him/her could say that all news is "fake news" and offer up examples such as the "bad ui".

dboreham 9y ago

I think it is worse than that because the screen shot originated with the Hawaii state government, but it turns out to be not genuine, AND they took no steps to debunk the resulting widely circulated stories that bad UI had been the root cause. http://www.ajc.com/news/national/photo-hawaii-missile-warning-system-was-fake-officials-say/L9A1wQTNVRpGMcKupM61YJ/ http://www.ajc.com/news/national/photo-hawaii-missile-warnin...

xupybd 9y ago

>I really hate the term "fake news". It implies that someone created the whole story on purpose to deceive people No it just means someone published the story without proper fact checking.

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mortehu 9y ago
Back in 2016 it meant fabricated news, usually about politics. Donald Trump started abusing the term not long after it was revealed that the fabricated news at the time was mostly successful in targeting his followers, presumably to dilute the term. See https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XoLHF3Z9eMg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XoLHF3Z9eMg or Google "Jestin Coler"
- xupybd 9y ago
  I stand corrected.