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For me, this whole fiasco was the last straw: Quantum had already broken the plugins I use for vertical tabs, and then I found that the only reason Quantum was

by Two9A 9y ago

For me, this whole fiasco was the last straw: Quantum had already broken the plugins I use for vertical tabs, and then I found that the only reason Quantum was introduced was to allow this Looking Glass plugin to collect telemetry from the whole of the browser window, not just the pages being rendered. Like yourself, I've been a Firefox user since the Phoenix days, but this was a step too far. I switched to Vivaldi, which is a Chromium with high levels of customization, including a vertical tab bar.

bringtheaction 9y ago
Vivalidi is proprietary though. Switching to that seems like a huge step back to me.
dahauns 9y ago
>and then I found that the only reason Quantum was introduced was to allow this Looking Glass plugin to collect telemetry from the whole of the browser window, not just the pages being rendered. What. I'd really love to know how you came to this conclusion.
ripdog 9y ago
>Quantum was introduced was to allow this Looking Glass plugin to collect telemetry from the whole of the browser window, not just the pages being rendered. You have no idea what you are talking about. Quantum is a name for a variety of technologies in Firefox, all of which have a shared goal of speeding the browser up. None of them have anything to do with telemetry. Also, Looking Glass collected no data. It says it right there in the article.
- dang 9y ago
  Please omit personal swipes from your comments here, regardless of how wrong anyone else is. It's particularly important to do so when you're right, so you can communicate correct information without discrediting it.
  - ripdog 9y ago
    Sorry, I didn't mean it as a personal attack. I meant it as a statement of fact.
    - dang 9y ago
      If you use negatively charged language about the person you're talking to, you're taking a big step away from factual exchange. On an internet forum, where we have precious little context to convey intent, that's almost always a destructive thing to do—and since it's both unnecessary and easy to avoid, we ask people to just not do it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by Two9A 9y ago

bringtheaction 9y ago

Vivalidi is proprietary though. Switching to that seems like a huge step back to me.

dahauns 9y ago

>and then I found that the only reason Quantum was introduced was to allow this Looking Glass plugin to collect telemetry from the whole of the browser window, not just the pages being rendered. What. I'd really love to know how you came to this conclusion.

ripdog 9y ago

>Quantum was introduced was to allow this Looking Glass plugin to collect telemetry from the whole of the browser window, not just the pages being rendered. You have no idea what you are talking about. Quantum is a name for a variety of technologies in Firefox, all of which have a shared goal of speeding the browser up. None of them have anything to do with telemetry. Also, Looking Glass collected no data. It says it right there in the article.

dang 9y ago
Please omit personal swipes from your comments here, regardless of how wrong anyone else is. It's particularly important to do so when you're right, so you can communicate correct information without discrediting it.
- ripdog 9y ago
  Sorry, I didn't mean it as a personal attack. I meant it as a statement of fact.
  - dang 9y ago
    If you use negatively charged language about the person you're talking to, you're taking a big step away from factual exchange. On an internet forum, where we have precious little context to convey intent, that's almost always a destructive thing to do—and since it's both unnecessary and easy to avoid, we ask people to just not do it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html