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That's incorrect. The CPUs don't degrade, the batteries do.

AtlasLion 9y ago
The CPU speed decreases. So doesn't matter if it technically is still able to reach higher clock speeds. In reality it runs slower.
- simonh 9y ago
  Right, as an alternative to random crashes. Bear in mind this is not an Apple problem, its a battery problem. All the other manufacturers have this problem, they just dont attempt to detect battery power fluctuations and mitigate it with throttling. They just eat the system crashes. Its got nothing to do with the CPU design, otherwise replacing the battery wouldnt fix the problem.
  - mrep 9y ago
    > All the other manufacturers have this problem, they just don't attempt to detect battery power fluctuations and mitigate it with throttling. They just eat the system crashes. Really, because I have not heard of any other manufacturer with this problem?
    - abritinthebay 9y ago
      Then you have not looked into it. Android forums have been filled with complaints over “random crashes” when doing something CPU heavy for years.
      - mrep 9y ago
        Care to cite any sources as I'm only coming up evidence that they don't (the last one is a forum like you said and the reasoning explained there is due to bloat) https://mashable.com/2018/01/04/apple-slowing-down-iphones-why-not-android/#D9OyfFK19mqi https://mashable.com/2018/01/04/apple-slowing-down-iphones-w... https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/29/16829512/samsung-lg-dont-slow-phones-older-batteries-apple https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/29/16829512/... https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/29/samsung-lg-claim-older-phones-apple/ https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/29/samsung-lg-claim-older-p... https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8/858929-do-samsung-phones-slow-down-over-time.html https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8/8589...
        abritinthebay 9y ago
        Source: basic understanding of how batteries & CPUs work while following tech forums for decades. This isn’t considered controversial
mrep 9y ago
You're completely ignoring the question. Do other smartphones start out fast due to new batteries and slow down due to the battery degradation like Apple or do they account for the battery degradation and keep performance stable?
- abritinthebay 9y ago
  Other smartphones either do the same thing (slow down) or just plain crash (most of them do this). It’s a common complaint.

The CPU speed decreases. So doesn't matter if it technically is still able to reach higher clock speeds. In reality it runs slower.

simonh 9y ago
Right, as an alternative to random crashes. Bear in mind this is not an Apple problem, its a battery problem. All the other manufacturers have this problem, they just dont attempt to detect battery power fluctuations and mitigate it with throttling. They just eat the system crashes. Its got nothing to do with the CPU design, otherwise replacing the battery wouldnt fix the problem.
- mrep 9y ago
  > All the other manufacturers have this problem, they just don't attempt to detect battery power fluctuations and mitigate it with throttling. They just eat the system crashes. Really, because I have not heard of any other manufacturer with this problem?
  - abritinthebay 9y ago
    Then you have not looked into it. Android forums have been filled with complaints over “random crashes” when doing something CPU heavy for years.
    - mrep 9y ago
      Care to cite any sources as I'm only coming up evidence that they don't (the last one is a forum like you said and the reasoning explained there is due to bloat) https://mashable.com/2018/01/04/apple-slowing-down-iphones-why-not-android/#D9OyfFK19mqi https://mashable.com/2018/01/04/apple-slowing-down-iphones-w... https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/29/16829512/samsung-lg-dont-slow-phones-older-batteries-apple https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/29/16829512/... https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/29/samsung-lg-claim-older-phones-apple/ https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/29/samsung-lg-claim-older-p... https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8/858929-do-samsung-phones-slow-down-over-time.html https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8/8589...
      - abritinthebay 9y ago
        Source: basic understanding of how batteries & CPUs work while following tech forums for decades. This isn’t considered controversial

mrep 9y ago

You're completely ignoring the question. Do other smartphones start out fast due to new batteries and slow down due to the battery degradation like Apple or do they account for the battery degradation and keep performance stable?

abritinthebay 9y ago
Other smartphones either do the same thing (slow down) or just plain crash (most of them do this). It’s a common complaint.