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You're okay with ugly exterior though?

by spectrum1234 9y ago

toast0 9y ago
Why care about the exterior? You don't see it when you're driving.
- singingboyo 9y ago
  To be fair, the older Odysseys were really damn ugly. Newer ones are slightly better, but not amazing. Of course, interior wins over exterior every time, but I do admit to some confusion as to why anyone bought the old ones.
  - jedberg 9y ago
    I didn't even think about the exterior when I bought it. It's for my family, so all I worried about were features that will make my family comfortable while giving me a good driving experience. I suspect that's why all those old vans were bought too -- you don't get a van for its styling. :)
    - singingboyo 9y ago
      That's true, you certainly don't. Honestly, it's true of any car - if something looked like a PT Cruiser (to pick a stereotype) but did what I wanted far better than anything else, I probably would have gotten despite the exterior. Though that is absurdly hard to imagine, so it's hard to be sure what would happen. In any case, I think exterior certainly comes into play at a subconscious level after looking at a bunch of different models for a month... and if two vehicles are otherwise very similar, I might opt for a slightly nicer exterior over, say, 3-level vs 2-level heated seats, or rain-sensing wipers. (On that note, I've never found a rain-sensing wiper system that I liked...) For context, though, I'm in Vancouver, and as a city we're rather snobby about car appearances.
      - jedberg 9y ago
        > I've never found a rain-sensing wiper system that I liked... Me neither, they're always too aggressive. I end up doing by hand, which would be super hard on Model 3 from what I hear. > For context, though, I'm in Vancouver, and as a city we're rather snobby about car appearances. I grew up in Southern California. I doubt you will find a place more snobby about their cars. :)
    - secabeen 9y ago
      Right, and Teslas are the best cars on the market today for auto-steer and adaptive cruise control, which contributes significantly to driving experience. As for family comfort, the Tesla seats are pretty good, and I don't really want any other comfort features than a good seat or two, and a cup-holder. Most everything else I want for family comfort/entertainment is delivered better via tablet or phone.
- greedo 9y ago
  99% of buyers care about a cars exterior. Otherwise the Pontiac Aztek would be a bestseller...
  - jedberg 9y ago
    That would only be true if the Aztek were a stellar car other than its look. But it isn't.
youngtaff 9y ago
With Tesla's there's something weird about the line where the hood meets the windshield that you don't see in other sports cars
- secabeen 9y ago
  That may be the deep cut under there that the wiper lie in. It's for maximum aerodynamics.
SystemOut 9y ago
On a mid-range or long-range trip with the family I don't really care about the exterior unless we're talking Aztek level ugly. Minivans are super useful and they've been focusing on family oriented interiors for a long time. I can take the seats out and haul a ton of stuff back there too. They also beat SUVs for the utility aspect in most situations.
whafro 9y ago
Everyone differs here, but I think the X is actually pretty ugly at the front. The hood and grille just seem like a fussy child's face. I still love the look of the S, and think it's aging pretty well, but I couldn't bring myself to get the X in part because of the exterior design. I ended up with a 2018 XC60.
- kabdib 9y ago
  The T8?
  - whafro 9y ago
    It wasn't available when I ordered. I had a time constraint, so got the first one off the boat into North America (allegedly), so it has a T6. But all things being equal, I'd love a T8 in there.

You're okay with ugly exterior though?

toast0 9y ago

Why care about the exterior? You don't see it when you're driving.

singingboyo 9y ago
To be fair, the older Odysseys were really damn ugly. Newer ones are slightly better, but not amazing. Of course, interior wins over exterior every time, but I do admit to some confusion as to why anyone bought the old ones.
- jedberg 9y ago
  I didn't even think about the exterior when I bought it. It's for my family, so all I worried about were features that will make my family comfortable while giving me a good driving experience. I suspect that's why all those old vans were bought too -- you don't get a van for its styling. :)
  - singingboyo 9y ago
    That's true, you certainly don't. Honestly, it's true of any car - if something looked like a PT Cruiser (to pick a stereotype) but did what I wanted far better than anything else, I probably would have gotten despite the exterior. Though that is absurdly hard to imagine, so it's hard to be sure what would happen. In any case, I think exterior certainly comes into play at a subconscious level after looking at a bunch of different models for a month... and if two vehicles are otherwise very similar, I might opt for a slightly nicer exterior over, say, 3-level vs 2-level heated seats, or rain-sensing wipers. (On that note, I've never found a rain-sensing wiper system that I liked...) For context, though, I'm in Vancouver, and as a city we're rather snobby about car appearances.
    - jedberg 9y ago
      > I've never found a rain-sensing wiper system that I liked... Me neither, they're always too aggressive. I end up doing by hand, which would be super hard on Model 3 from what I hear. > For context, though, I'm in Vancouver, and as a city we're rather snobby about car appearances. I grew up in Southern California. I doubt you will find a place more snobby about their cars. :)
  - secabeen 9y ago
    Right, and Teslas are the best cars on the market today for auto-steer and adaptive cruise control, which contributes significantly to driving experience. As for family comfort, the Tesla seats are pretty good, and I don't really want any other comfort features than a good seat or two, and a cup-holder. Most everything else I want for family comfort/entertainment is delivered better via tablet or phone.
greedo 9y ago
99% of buyers care about a cars exterior. Otherwise the Pontiac Aztek would be a bestseller...
- jedberg 9y ago
  That would only be true if the Aztek were a stellar car other than its look. But it isn't.

youngtaff 9y ago

With Tesla's there's something weird about the line where the hood meets the windshield that you don't see in other sports cars

secabeen 9y ago
That may be the deep cut under there that the wiper lie in. It's for maximum aerodynamics.

SystemOut 9y ago

On a mid-range or long-range trip with the family I don't really care about the exterior unless we're talking Aztek level ugly. Minivans are super useful and they've been focusing on family oriented interiors for a long time. I can take the seats out and haul a ton of stuff back there too. They also beat SUVs for the utility aspect in most situations.

whafro 9y ago

Everyone differs here, but I think the X is actually pretty ugly at the front. The hood and grille just seem like a fussy child's face. I still love the look of the S, and think it's aging pretty well, but I couldn't bring myself to get the X in part because of the exterior design. I ended up with a 2018 XC60.

kabdib 9y ago
The T8?
- whafro 9y ago
  It wasn't available when I ordered. I had a time constraint, so got the first one off the boat into North America (allegedly), so it has a T6. But all things being equal, I'd love a T8 in there.