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We are not in a post-fact age. A certain someone who is on TV and Twitter a lot who you don't like tells lies and half truths. Like people always have. This per

We are not in a post-fact age. A certain someone who is on TV and Twitter a lot who you don't like tells lies and half truths. Like people always have. This person is just more brazen about it, and you really, really don't like this person. You still live in a world with facts. If you get charged for a pound of lunch meat at the deli but are given half a pound, you complain and this gets straightened out. Most delis won't assert that we now live in a post-fact world and thus your half pound is really a pound. If you make up your own facts at work, you're not likely going to keep your job very long. You still live in reality. The world is not spinning out of control. Everything is going to be OK.

krapp 9y ago
That's not what people mean when they talk about a "post-fact" age. They mean facts related to people's perception of the world beyond their immediate perception. See Karl Rove's quote about the "reality based" community, or Trump's aide ironically invoking "alternative facts" in reference to provably false claims made about his inauguration, or the fake news phenomenon itself. A pound of lunch meat remains a pound of lunch meat even when you believe in Pizzagate, or that jet fuel can't melt steel beams, or that the world is flat. Fact is no longer relevant in shaping many people's interpretation of reality, because many people are abstracted from that reality by layers of media, by and large mistrust mainstream gatekeepers of truth, and can live in a subjective pocket universe of inputs and acquaintances that reinforce their biases.
rhacker 9y ago
lol, no, they will tell you they can't weigh it because you already touched it, and that would contaminate their kitchen and therefore there is no way for them to give you a refund or straighten it out... while this specific situation hasn't happened to me, very eerily similar situations have.
- nsxwolf 9y ago
  Have you ever been grocery shopping? Are you from the US? The national chains are pretty liberal about accepting returns and customer service in general.

krapp 9y ago

That's not what people mean when they talk about a "post-fact" age. They mean facts related to people's perception of the world beyond their immediate perception. See Karl Rove's quote about the "reality based" community, or Trump's aide ironically invoking "alternative facts" in reference to provably false claims made about his inauguration, or the fake news phenomenon itself. A pound of lunch meat remains a pound of lunch meat even when you believe in Pizzagate, or that jet fuel can't melt steel beams, or that the world is flat. Fact is no longer relevant in shaping many people's interpretation of reality, because many people are abstracted from that reality by layers of media, by and large mistrust mainstream gatekeepers of truth, and can live in a subjective pocket universe of inputs and acquaintances that reinforce their biases.

rhacker 9y ago

lol, no, they will tell you they can't weigh it because you already touched it, and that would contaminate their kitchen and therefore there is no way for them to give you a refund or straighten it out... while this specific situation hasn't happened to me, very eerily similar situations have.

nsxwolf 9y ago
Have you ever been grocery shopping? Are you from the US? The national chains are pretty liberal about accepting returns and customer service in general.