This is more what I was aiming at. Sorry for my poor phrasing before. Maybe replying on HN after some whisky isn't the best idea. I tried to look up some of th

This is more what I was aiming at. Sorry for my poor phrasing before. Maybe replying on HN after some whisky isn't the best idea. I tried to look up some of the past HN comments and the like I was looking at. While many complained about some missing SV style elements (missing VC, tougher working regulations) there were also mentions of different ways of doing things such as risk aversion or the style of business being more consensus-based (Sweden). Here in the US, when thinking of dominate European innovative companies, I guess Skype (pre-acquisition), SAP, and even toss in IKEA would be ones that dominated (or in Skype's case, created) their markets. Anyway, this was all speculative off the dawhizkid's premise of 'would a solid safety net create more entrepreneurs?' and, given we have good examples of that in Europe, I thought it worth taking a shot at.