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Here's a good video summary about Todd Rogers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e-H4sEHB54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e-H4sEHB54

by Vadoff 9y ago

graphitezepp 9y ago
This video stands by itself for all you need to know about the situation. It is pretty clear cut that this Rogers guy 'scum bagged' his way to his prominence when gaming was in a quite less developed state.
xutopia 9y ago
For those who can't watch. Some games were scored in increments of 5 and he somehow got a score finishing with an 8. Many scores were ridiculous like 650000 for a game that goes in increments of 100 and the second highest video verified score was in the 90k range. Then the fact that all his records were referee verified instead of video verified. The referee is serving a sentence for child rape. Then there is the lie about the videos being taken by the police department and never returned which was proven false by a call to the police department. Then the fact that the record holder had direct access to the Twin Galaxies database and ent3ered his own records though he says he only did it once.
- danso 9y ago
  Ironically, in the case of the Dragster record, his exact time does match the nature of Dragster's clock being only precise to 3/100ths of a second: > Despite Omnigamer’s claim, as previously mentioned, Activision supposedly had created a machine-assisted run that determined 5.54 a perfect score, which is .03 better than Koziel’s model, thus making it impossible in his determinations. Crane explained to me that the “Dragster timer is .03 seconds per tick, so the difference that is being discussed is one tick of the game clock in a record set 35 years ago.” http://www.twingalaxies.com/feed_details.php/87/dragster-designer-without-a-shadow-of-a-doubt-about-todd-rogers-record/1 http://www.twingalaxies.com/feed_details.php/87/dragster-des...
  - unreal37 9y ago
    But anyone who played the game more than a few hours would know that the time only increments in multiples of 3. And this same gamer lied about other games with scores that are impossible to get.
- AdmiralAsshat 9y ago
  > Then the fact that all his records were referee verified instead of video verified. The referee is serving a sentence for child rape. While that's deplorable, it does not logically follow that a child molester is necessarily an unreliable referee.
  - UsernameProxy 9y ago
    It's a pretty safe bet, though.
    - dkersten 9y ago
      I wouldn't want to listen to anything a child molester has to say, but that doesn't mean their knowledge of something completely unrelated is suspect at all. Just that I really don't care to know what a child molester has to say, on any topic. Although, I agree with the video in that I would question his honesty and character... So maybe you're right.
    - Broken_Hippo 9y ago
      People commit horrible crimes. That's one of those things that happen. It doesn't actually mean that everything they did was a lie or a crime, even if they are a horrible, detestable human in many senses of the word. I'd nearly argue that it would be in his worst interest to participate in defrauding something since it might have revealed his horrible offenses.
      - rubicon33 9y ago
        > doesn't actually mean that everything they did was a lie or a crime Nobody said that > they are a horrible, detestable human Nobody said that either All that's being said is that it's more likely he would do something nefarious, given his background.
        tsumnia 9y ago
        The issue is that "child rapist" implies "poor judgment of character". This implication cannot be made because there are plenty of accounts where "non-child rapist" have "poor judgement of character". No one is arguing a child rapist is okay; the issue other posters are having is that it is a incorrect argument. Any further "but what if's..." are simply assumptions that do not have proof.
- lifeformed 9y ago
  Not even 650,000, it was 65,000,000! Reference: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0kQ1V1ZsZ1IJ:www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php%3Fscores%3D2815+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0kQ1V1Z...

Here's a good video summary about Todd Rogers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e-H4sEHB54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e-H4sEHB54

by Vadoff 9y ago

Here's a good video summary about Todd Rogers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e-H4sEHB54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e-H4sEHB54

graphitezepp 9y ago

This video stands by itself for all you need to know about the situation. It is pretty clear cut that this Rogers guy 'scum bagged' his way to his prominence when gaming was in a quite less developed state.

xutopia 9y ago

For those who can't watch. Some games were scored in increments of 5 and he somehow got a score finishing with an 8. Many scores were ridiculous like 650000 for a game that goes in increments of 100 and the second highest video verified score was in the 90k range. Then the fact that all his records were referee verified instead of video verified. The referee is serving a sentence for child rape. Then there is the lie about the videos being taken by the police department and never returned which was proven false by a call to the police department. Then the fact that the record holder had direct access to the Twin Galaxies database and ent3ered his own records though he says he only did it once.

danso 9y ago
Ironically, in the case of the Dragster record, his exact time does match the nature of Dragster's clock being only precise to 3/100ths of a second: > Despite Omnigamer’s claim, as previously mentioned, Activision supposedly had created a machine-assisted run that determined 5.54 a perfect score, which is .03 better than Koziel’s model, thus making it impossible in his determinations. Crane explained to me that the “Dragster timer is .03 seconds per tick, so the difference that is being discussed is one tick of the game clock in a record set 35 years ago.” http://www.twingalaxies.com/feed_details.php/87/dragster-designer-without-a-shadow-of-a-doubt-about-todd-rogers-record/1 http://www.twingalaxies.com/feed_details.php/87/dragster-des...
- unreal37 9y ago
  But anyone who played the game more than a few hours would know that the time only increments in multiples of 3. And this same gamer lied about other games with scores that are impossible to get.
AdmiralAsshat 9y ago
> Then the fact that all his records were referee verified instead of video verified. The referee is serving a sentence for child rape. While that's deplorable, it does not logically follow that a child molester is necessarily an unreliable referee.
- UsernameProxy 9y ago
  It's a pretty safe bet, though.
  - dkersten 9y ago
    I wouldn't want to listen to anything a child molester has to say, but that doesn't mean their knowledge of something completely unrelated is suspect at all. Just that I really don't care to know what a child molester has to say, on any topic. Although, I agree with the video in that I would question his honesty and character... So maybe you're right.
  - Broken_Hippo 9y ago
    People commit horrible crimes. That's one of those things that happen. It doesn't actually mean that everything they did was a lie or a crime, even if they are a horrible, detestable human in many senses of the word. I'd nearly argue that it would be in his worst interest to participate in defrauding something since it might have revealed his horrible offenses.
    - rubicon33 9y ago
      > doesn't actually mean that everything they did was a lie or a crime Nobody said that > they are a horrible, detestable human Nobody said that either All that's being said is that it's more likely he would do something nefarious, given his background.
      - tsumnia 9y ago
        The issue is that "child rapist" implies "poor judgment of character". This implication cannot be made because there are plenty of accounts where "non-child rapist" have "poor judgement of character". No one is arguing a child rapist is okay; the issue other posters are having is that it is a incorrect argument. Any further "but what if's..." are simply assumptions that do not have proof.
lifeformed 9y ago
Not even 650,000, it was 65,000,000! Reference: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0kQ1V1ZsZ1IJ:www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php%3Fscores%3D2815+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0kQ1V1Z...