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Have we really arrived at a place where "conservative blogger" is an accurate description of a person who: * "isn't exactly allergic to the stuff" (re: white n

by croon 9y ago

Have we really arrived at a place where "conservative blogger" is an accurate description of a person who: * "isn't exactly allergic to the stuff" (re: white nationalism) * wrote "Not all humans are born the same, of course, and the innate character and intelligence of some is more suited to mastery than slavery. For others, it is more suited to slavery. " * asked "What's so bad about the Nazis?" * etc ? I'm not sure if it's liberals or conservatives who should be offended by that. Hopefully both.

walshemj 9y ago
Exactly these so call "conservative" views are actually hard right ones if not oughtright fascist ones. In UK terms the national front or EDL. Danmore did not want to say set up a group of googlers into field sports (hunting Shooting and Fishing) did he.
chatmasta 9y ago
The interesting part of that article was that his views were sufficient to silently land him on a “do not visit” list at Google HQ, which implies that Google is tracking people who hold such opinions and adding them to such lists.
- hux_ 9y ago
  No great conspiracy here. Any mid to large org maintain such lists. If you fire someone who is wasting the orgs time, do you then want him to show up/get hired/be entertained by some group in the next building/next campus etc who have no idea what the story is?
  - chatmasta 9y ago
    The guy is not an ex-Google employee. This event was named in the Damore lawsuit as evidence of discrimination against political views because all he was guilty of was blogging things someone at Google had a problem with. It doesn’t make you uncomfortable to know that even if you’ve had no previous interactions with Google, you may be tracked and added to a list of undesirables? Who controls the list, who has power to add people to it, and what else are they doing with this list? What if they’re looking at his search history too? Would that be okay?
    - gnud 9y ago
      As long as the list is used for "people who will/won't be invited to speak at Google HQ", and not used to influence search results, I have zero problems with it.
    - zimpenfish 9y ago
      Google are a private company with no requirement (barring legal strictures) to allow anyone onto their campus. If they want a list of undesirables, they can have one. Same as you've probably got one for your house.
simula67 9y ago
This guy is clearly not conservative or liberal, he just seems crazy. However to escort him out seems astonishing and I am OK with discussing it
dang 9y ago
Would you really, really please not take HN threads on generic ideological tangents? They are invariably train wrecks, and the trains here wreck easily. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by croon 9y ago

walshemj 9y ago

Exactly these so call "conservative" views are actually hard right ones if not oughtright fascist ones. In UK terms the national front or EDL. Danmore did not want to say set up a group of googlers into field sports (hunting Shooting and Fishing) did he.

chatmasta 9y ago

The interesting part of that article was that his views were sufficient to silently land him on a “do not visit” list at Google HQ, which implies that Google is tracking people who hold such opinions and adding them to such lists.

hux_ 9y ago
No great conspiracy here. Any mid to large org maintain such lists. If you fire someone who is wasting the orgs time, do you then want him to show up/get hired/be entertained by some group in the next building/next campus etc who have no idea what the story is?
- chatmasta 9y ago
  The guy is not an ex-Google employee. This event was named in the Damore lawsuit as evidence of discrimination against political views because all he was guilty of was blogging things someone at Google had a problem with. It doesn’t make you uncomfortable to know that even if you’ve had no previous interactions with Google, you may be tracked and added to a list of undesirables? Who controls the list, who has power to add people to it, and what else are they doing with this list? What if they’re looking at his search history too? Would that be okay?
  - gnud 9y ago
    As long as the list is used for "people who will/won't be invited to speak at Google HQ", and not used to influence search results, I have zero problems with it.
  - zimpenfish 9y ago
    Google are a private company with no requirement (barring legal strictures) to allow anyone onto their campus. If they want a list of undesirables, they can have one. Same as you've probably got one for your house.

simula67 9y ago

This guy is clearly not conservative or liberal, he just seems crazy. However to escort him out seems astonishing and I am OK with discussing it

dang 9y ago

Would you really, really please not take HN threads on generic ideological tangents? They are invariably train wrecks, and the trains here wreck easily. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html