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Tom Watson has agreeable views in a number of areas, but he's unlikely to be a candidate for the leadership any time soon. Quite aside from anything, Corbyn is

Tom Watson has agreeable views in a number of areas, but he's unlikely to be a candidate for the leadership any time soon. Quite aside from anything, Corbyn is unfortunately unassailable at the moment.

psergeant 9y ago
I think as it becomes clearer to young people that Corbyn is — at best — lacklustre about repealing Brexit, his assailability will grow
mabbo 9y ago
> Corbyn is unfortunately unassailable at the moment But... Why? I don't have a horse in this race at all, but Corbyn just doesn't seem to be able to win. He seems so uncharismatic. The last election wasn't so much him gaining seats as it was May losing them. With a minority government, May's days are numbered. It feels to me like the time to replace Corbyn is now, before the next election.
- guiriduro 9y ago
  > I don't have a horse in this race at all Yeah right, you come only to bury caesar. I'll admit my bias, I'm a fan. And I don't think you can write off Corbyn's coming from well behind, daily attacks from all the centre and rightwing press as if he were the antichrist or some antisemitic Stalinist, as well as attacks from the Blairite dead in his own party, to beat all the critics and deprive "strong and stable" May of her majority, leaving her weakly needing to bribe the Northern Irish in order to stay in government. That's no small achievement given the hatchetjobs he's had to overcome. Labour under Corbyn look much more like a government than the Tories, frankly.
  - Silhouette 9y ago
    Labour under Corbyn look much more like a government than the Tories, frankly. But again, how much of that is just because May has been such a disaster? Corbyn's Labour might look like the government-in-waiting by default, but that's partly because they've got very good at either not committing on controversial subjects or having policies that have a very visible upside that they've promoted while they gloss over serious downsides. None of that will be sustainable if they actually form a government.
- Brakenshire 9y ago
  > But... Why? It's because Corbyn was attacked excessively at the start. That allowed him to circle the wagons, and Labour is still in the grip of that siege mentality.

psergeant 9y ago

I think as it becomes clearer to young people that Corbyn is — at best — lacklustre about repealing Brexit, his assailability will grow

mabbo 9y ago

> Corbyn is unfortunately unassailable at the moment But... Why? I don't have a horse in this race at all, but Corbyn just doesn't seem to be able to win. He seems so uncharismatic. The last election wasn't so much him gaining seats as it was May losing them. With a minority government, May's days are numbered. It feels to me like the time to replace Corbyn is now, before the next election.

guiriduro 9y ago
> I don't have a horse in this race at all Yeah right, you come only to bury caesar. I'll admit my bias, I'm a fan. And I don't think you can write off Corbyn's coming from well behind, daily attacks from all the centre and rightwing press as if he were the antichrist or some antisemitic Stalinist, as well as attacks from the Blairite dead in his own party, to beat all the critics and deprive "strong and stable" May of her majority, leaving her weakly needing to bribe the Northern Irish in order to stay in government. That's no small achievement given the hatchetjobs he's had to overcome. Labour under Corbyn look much more like a government than the Tories, frankly.
- Silhouette 9y ago
  Labour under Corbyn look much more like a government than the Tories, frankly. But again, how much of that is just because May has been such a disaster? Corbyn's Labour might look like the government-in-waiting by default, but that's partly because they've got very good at either not committing on controversial subjects or having policies that have a very visible upside that they've promoted while they gloss over serious downsides. None of that will be sustainable if they actually form a government.
Brakenshire 9y ago
> But... Why? It's because Corbyn was attacked excessively at the start. That allowed him to circle the wagons, and Labour is still in the grip of that siege mentality.