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AZERTY really is a terrible layout though, I can't find anything it's good at, not even typing french. You can't write É, È or À on a standard AZERTY keyboard f
by simias 9y ago
AZERTY really is a terrible layout though, I can't find anything it's good at, not even typing french. You can't write É, È or À on a standard AZERTY keyboard for instance. If you're programming you're going to have the alt-gr key pressed half the time but admittedly that's mainly because programming languages are qwerty-centric.
But hey, you can type 'µ' with a single unmodified keystroke!
- moviuro 9y ago> You can't write É, È or À on a standard AZERTY keyboard for instance That's a limitation on Windows (and macOS?). On Linux, CAPS LOCK + é = É ; etc.
- maeln 9y agoOn Linux, CAPS-LOCK + é produce É. Ithink it works on Mac OS too. Only windows doesn't handle it. But I do agree, Azerty is not that good most of the time. Especially when it comes to programming.
- louhike 9y agoYou can use the following link (in french) to be able to do it on Windows: http://chrisbertrand.net/fr/articles/clavier_fr_esp_maj.html http://chrisbertrand.net/fr/articles/clavier_fr_esp_maj.html
- simias 9y agoI didn't know about the caps lock method (I always have it remapped to ctrl) but still, it's more like a workaround than a true solution IMO. Using caps lock to capitalize a word doesn't seem very pleasant: "Étant donné..."
- lloeki 9y ago> I think it works on Mac OS too Indeed, same on Apple's "French" keyboard layout, unless you select the "French (numeric)" one, in which case caps lock produces numbers. Also, ` is a dead key, as is ^ and ¨, which works with caps too, but there's no dead key for acute accent (é). Other bits of trivia: On macOS, the numeric keypad (if any) is always num-lock'd. The Apple "French" layouts are vastly different from the PC ones (also available as "French - PC"), relying on visual symbolism for extra glyphs which makes them (sort of) easier to remember: option-n is ~ (which turns out to be a dead key) option-l is ¬, option-t is † option-shift-l is | option-( is { and option-shift-( is [ “smart” ‘quotes’ are on " and ' with option and option-shift there are ligatures too: shiftable æ œ fi on option-a o and g question and exclamation marks are reversed with option too: ! -> ¡ and ? -> ¿ option-d is ∂ PARTIAL DIFFERENTIAL, option-shift-s is ∑, option-m is µ, option-f is ƒ now guess how you do: © ™ ® £ gives # when option'd (even though there's a dedicated @+# key) shift-- is underscore, option-- is en-dash, option-shift-- is em-dash similarly, there's also (grouped per physical key: no mod, shift, option, shift+option): < > ≤ ≥ = + ≠ ± : / ÷ \
- plopilop 9y agoÈ and À are actually easy to write: the grave accent ` is ALT GR + è, then type your letter. Special thought for the ù letter, which has its own key even though it's only used in one French word 'où' (ok, we use this word fairly often, but still).
- baud147258 9y agoI learned something today. Thank you.
- digi_owl 9y ago> admittedly that's mainly because programming languages are qwerty-centric. More like US layout centric. EVen the humble unix CLI is a straight pain on anything but a US keyboard, as things like / now require a modifier key. Funny thing is that There is a variant of the US layout with the right alt being alt-gr, allowing most languages that use latin script to be typed.