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I read this as "public cloud company" originally...then realized it just said "public company". I wonder if public cloud could be in the cards though. Merge wi

I read this as "public cloud company" originally...then realized it just said "public company". I wonder if public cloud could be in the cards though. Merge with HPE, Rackspace and maybe even Cisco and be a dinosaur public cloud play competing with IBM for scraps?

tyingq 9y ago
They all started private clouds, but as far as I know, only IBMs Bluemix/SoftLayer survived. For some reason, there's no real competition in that space. I would guess there are enough overly cautious CIO types out there to support a "big" competitor to Bluemix. Though, I'm hoping Amazon's announcement for official support for K8S starts a new era where public cloud providers actually compete, and drive down things like ridiculous egress pricing. If the public cloud is affordable, the need for hybrid/private/etc drops down.
- toyg 9y ago
  > They all started private clouds I see this from the inside professionally and I’m not surprised by the outcome. Amazon, Microsoft and Google are basically unmatchable. IBM likely survives on incompetent managers paying more to ensure they don’t get fired, but nobody else has that advantage. Kids, don’t play datacentre at home.
  - tyingq 9y ago
    Right...but it stifles progress a bit by encouraging stodgy F500 companies to stay with colo arrangements or worse. Non elastic, or high egress cost apps are still too expensive to run on public clouds. Or, the transition period, where you're half in/half out, kills you because of overpriced egress.
    - toyg 9y ago
      > Non elastic, or high egress cost apps are still too expensive to run on public clouds. Unfortunately for the sector I'm in, this is becoming less and less true every few months. Besides, a lot of managers simply don't care, they'll just compensate higher opex with a few redundancies, it doesn't matter - their capex budget goes down, they cash the big bucks, and if apps don't work it's the nerds' fault.

tyingq 9y ago

They all started private clouds, but as far as I know, only IBMs Bluemix/SoftLayer survived. For some reason, there's no real competition in that space. I would guess there are enough overly cautious CIO types out there to support a "big" competitor to Bluemix. Though, I'm hoping Amazon's announcement for official support for K8S starts a new era where public cloud providers actually compete, and drive down things like ridiculous egress pricing. If the public cloud is affordable, the need for hybrid/private/etc drops down.

toyg 9y ago
> They all started private clouds I see this from the inside professionally and I’m not surprised by the outcome. Amazon, Microsoft and Google are basically unmatchable. IBM likely survives on incompetent managers paying more to ensure they don’t get fired, but nobody else has that advantage. Kids, don’t play datacentre at home.
- tyingq 9y ago
  Right...but it stifles progress a bit by encouraging stodgy F500 companies to stay with colo arrangements or worse. Non elastic, or high egress cost apps are still too expensive to run on public clouds. Or, the transition period, where you're half in/half out, kills you because of overpriced egress.
  - toyg 9y ago
    > Non elastic, or high egress cost apps are still too expensive to run on public clouds. Unfortunately for the sector I'm in, this is becoming less and less true every few months. Besides, a lot of managers simply don't care, they'll just compensate higher opex with a few redundancies, it doesn't matter - their capex budget goes down, they cash the big bucks, and if apps don't work it's the nerds' fault.