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Pinker wants to establish metrics to evaluate the state of the world. Once he establishes the metrics, he wants to show that the state of the world is improving
by keane 9y ago
Pinker wants to establish metrics to evaluate the state of the world. Once he establishes the metrics, he wants to show that the state of the world is improving over time. Showing improvement by these metrics, he wants us to celebrate this. This is easy to appreciate. He is right. There really are large differences in living and these differences are commonly experienced as better. There is real cause for celebration and continued efforts at improvement. If this were all he was doing, his book might be universally praised.
But despite the truth of his cited facts, Pinker makes many common errors in reasoning when he attempts to claim sweeping philosophical conclusions from his series of empirical observations.
You can see Pinker's faulty thinking in his attempt to define progress:
"What is progress? You might think that the question is so subjective and culturally relative as to be forever unanswerable… Most people agree that life is better than death. Health is better than sickness… All these things can be measured. If they have increased over time, that is progress."
Progress may exist. It is not established by whether most people agree on something or not. That the majority believes something to be the case, does not make the thing the case. It does inform us, namely of how humans experience the something but it does not establish the something to be the case.
He repeats this error moments later:
"Granted, not every one would agree on the exact list."
Whether every one did agree on the exact list wouldn't change the situation. That 100% of Earth believed X would not make X the case.
He follows this with a fallacy:
"If you’re reading this, you are not dead, starving, destitute, moribund, terrified, enslaved, or illiterate, which means that you’re in no position to turn your nose up at these values."
This is a cute display of polemic but not a valid argument. The fact that I can read, does not establish that reading is good. Reading may be good but whether reading is good or not is not at all determined by whether I can read or not. His sentence here is something that seems that way but is not true (my freedom does not establish what I must value).
He continues with his previous rule-of-majority error:
"As it happens, the world does agree on these values. In the year 2000, all 189 members of the United Nations, together with two dozen international organizations, agreed on eight Millennium Development Goals for the year 2015 that blend right into this list."
Again, even if all 7 billion people expressed that they believe "murder is wrong" this would not establish that murder is wrong.
This isn't to say that murder is not wrong. It's just to say that pointing out what humans do cannot establish what is wrong. Murder is wrong objectively (independent of human minds and their opinions and perceptions) or it is not wrong at all. Anything else is merely observation of what humans happen to hold or happen to practice. Pinker, Sam Harris, and others on the TED stage attempt to ignore this troublesome hindrance to the worldview they promote, dismissing it with a wave of their hand when it is raised and moving along with their presentation. The widely-held feelings and sentiments of humans everywhere do tell us something, just not what Pinker and Harris suggest: there is an intrinsic understanding of right and wrong in every human and we should pay attention that this is present. But this doesn't change the situation that values are objective realities or they are merely subjective whims/emotions/opinions (and may be treated like all other whims/emotions/opinions: ignored).
Pinker as a discussion of what is happening–fine, useful, needed. Pinker suggesting both that many values many humans happen to hold should be held and on this basis and that those who notice this is not philosophically sound are simply pessimists–laughable.
- kleer001 9y ago> if all 7 billion people expressed that they believe "murder is wrong" this would not establish that murder is wrong. How else do you propose we establish morality if not by consensus?
- keane 9y agoOptions vary. The first option is to admit defeat and adopt Moral Nonrealism. Most of academia and global intelligentsia have done this; Pinker finds them frustrating as fuddy-duddy spoilsports for insisting on logically-sound conclusions. The other option is to adopt Moral Realism (ie, Theism). This won't please Pinker either. I explain more about this at http://liamk.org/is-love-real http://liamk.org/is-love-real and in my comment history on this site. Lawyer and political commentator Ben Shapiro also explains this on the libertarian-themed and ethics-focused show The Rubin Report here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9IwamztdqA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9IwamztdqA
- kleer001 9y agoSomehow I knew you were going to lean on theism, I should have put that in my comment, oh well. Nuts to that. I live in the real world. The actual action of morality can have no basis except consensus. Biology is morality free as is physics. Even if you insist there's a "pure" moral law somewhere you still have to enforce it or it's a toothless theory. Then to enforce it you really have to get down to brass tacks and democracy.
- keane 9y ago>The actual action of morality can have no basis except consensus. If we said this, what we'd be saying is roughly "what a society does in aggregate is based on what the majority of individuals in a society agree to do" (a tautology). >Biology is morality free as is physics. Exactly! Moral facts cannot be determined by empirical observation. If you limited yourself to empirical observation ("Empiricism") as you seem to do, you are left with Moral Nonrealism. >Even if you insist there's a "pure" moral law somewhere you still have to enforce it or it's a toothless theory. What's in question is "do morals facts exist". You're saying "Alright, if moral facts exist they'd need to be enforced by a society in order to ensure the society complied with them". This is true; but in the same way that the society's acknowledgement that the moral facts exist doesn't change their existence, the society's enforcement of them also doesn't affect if they exist or what they are. >Then to enforce it you really have to get down to brass tacks and democracy. Democracy is one way that certain societies have chosen to organise themselves. They are often very effective at enforcing what a society believes to be correct. But this isn't disputed. What humans do –what they believe, what they say, what ethics they choose to conduct themselves by, how they organise with each other to enforce agreed upon norms– and whether these behaviors help them survive or thrive–is not in contention. These are just observations of what humans do (anthropology, etc). For Ben Shapiro's explanation, you can see the video starting at 45:44 through 59:20. As he puts it, "you don't get to burn down my house and then use the planks from my house to build your own philosophy". Here's a link to just that section: https://www.youtube.com/embed/s9IwamztdqA?start=2744&end=3560 https://www.youtube.com/embed/s9IwamztdqA?start=2744&end=356...