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Intel has been called out by Linus Torvalds several days ago for the crappy fixes they delivered for GNU/Linux. I would be very surprised if Intel actually ship

by dotdi 9y ago

Intel has been called out by Linus Torvalds several days ago for the crappy fixes they delivered for GNU/Linux. I would be very surprised if Intel actually shipped proper fixes for Windows. It's a shame, really.

watwut 9y ago
Those were not delivered fixes, that was work in progress that is still work in progress. And the dude who was "called out" works for Amazon.
- mrmondo 9y ago
  FYI - The “dude” from Amazon worked for Intel for 8 years before joining Amazon UK just over a year ago.
  - numbsafari 9y ago
    The “dude” is also probably working under an insane amount of pressure and being made to feel like he is somehow responsible or at fault for the whole situation. Best not to make it personal from the peanut gallery.
    - mrmondo 9y ago
      I did not, and do not lay any blame, I only provided context to the prior comment.
    - sundarurfriend 9y ago
      > Best not to make it personal from the peanut gallery. That's a very uncharitable interpretation of your parent comment, which was simply pointing out his connection and history with Intel.
      - FPGAhacker 9y ago
        Are you sure it is not you that has made the uncharitable interpretation? I read the peanut gallery comment as an agreement that the guy knows what he’s talking about.
        mrmondo 9y ago
        FWIW - I took it as a somewhat rude reply but hey it’s the internet so no big deal.
    - SmellyGeekBoy 9y ago
      So the person supposedly single-handedly working on this fix doesn't even work for Intel? That strikes me as... Odd?
      - watwut 9y ago
        Where did you got single-handedly from? Of course multiple people cooperate on those patches. That is it was possible for Linus Torwalds to join their discussion, it would all be much less public if only one institution or person worked on it.
- cornholio 9y ago
  So what you are saying is that Intel didn't bother to support Linux even with a crappy fix, like they did for Microsoft? Good to hear the Chinese are well supported though.
  - watwut 9y ago
    That is not what I said and not what situation implied. In situation where you have like zero factual information you went out of your way to make up most damaging possibility you could have.
DominikD 9y ago
And then another developer kindly explained why he's wrong. It's fun to listen to Linus' rants, sure, but he's not always correct.
- kabes 9y ago
  And then yet another developer showed there are way better fixes than what intel proposed [1]. So he was correct after all. [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/23/25 https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/23/25
  - SmellyGeekBoy 9y ago
    It's almost as if software development isn't an exact science and there are multiple approaches to any given problem.
    - richardwhiuk 9y ago
      And that Intel don't have a monopoly on smart software developers. Truly tragic.

by dotdi 9y ago

watwut 9y ago

Those were not delivered fixes, that was work in progress that is still work in progress. And the dude who was "called out" works for Amazon.

mrmondo 9y ago
FYI - The “dude” from Amazon worked for Intel for 8 years before joining Amazon UK just over a year ago.
- numbsafari 9y ago
  The “dude” is also probably working under an insane amount of pressure and being made to feel like he is somehow responsible or at fault for the whole situation. Best not to make it personal from the peanut gallery.
  - mrmondo 9y ago
    I did not, and do not lay any blame, I only provided context to the prior comment.
  - sundarurfriend 9y ago
    > Best not to make it personal from the peanut gallery. That's a very uncharitable interpretation of your parent comment, which was simply pointing out his connection and history with Intel.
    - FPGAhacker 9y ago
      Are you sure it is not you that has made the uncharitable interpretation? I read the peanut gallery comment as an agreement that the guy knows what he’s talking about.
      - mrmondo 9y ago
        FWIW - I took it as a somewhat rude reply but hey it’s the internet so no big deal.
  - SmellyGeekBoy 9y ago
    So the person supposedly single-handedly working on this fix doesn't even work for Intel? That strikes me as... Odd?
    - watwut 9y ago
      Where did you got single-handedly from? Of course multiple people cooperate on those patches. That is it was possible for Linus Torwalds to join their discussion, it would all be much less public if only one institution or person worked on it.
cornholio 9y ago
So what you are saying is that Intel didn't bother to support Linux even with a crappy fix, like they did for Microsoft? Good to hear the Chinese are well supported though.
- watwut 9y ago
  That is not what I said and not what situation implied. In situation where you have like zero factual information you went out of your way to make up most damaging possibility you could have.

DominikD 9y ago

And then another developer kindly explained why he's wrong. It's fun to listen to Linus' rants, sure, but he's not always correct.

kabes 9y ago
And then yet another developer showed there are way better fixes than what intel proposed [1]. So he was correct after all. [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/23/25 https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/23/25
- SmellyGeekBoy 9y ago
  It's almost as if software development isn't an exact science and there are multiple approaches to any given problem.
  - richardwhiuk 9y ago
    And that Intel don't have a monopoly on smart software developers. Truly tragic.