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Good for you, still millions of users will by apple products because they are simple to use out of box. People here are only thinking about their power user exp

by dotsh 9y ago

Good for you, still millions of users will by apple products because they are simple to use out of box. People here are only thinking about their power user experience forgetting that most users don't give a damn about that and are whining that apple forget about "pro" users. Apple never was design for being pro. Also argument about cost is silly. Apple products cost almost the same as high-end computers are Samsung flagship phones. Don't forget about high price of Microsoft products... World is about money and that will never change and voice of pro users will never be heard as they don't make that much money on you. To emphasize, I'm not an Apple fanboy.

thephyber 9y ago
I found the argument about cost even sillier than you described. If Apple were to continue to support devices that are 10+ years old (those that shipped with PPC arch) and didn't drop support for obsolete products, the price would be far higher for each device.
carlmr 9y ago
>Apple never was design for being pro. It was, but not for pro software engineers, but for pro designers, film editors, etc.
ksec 9y ago
Well another reason most Pros chooses Apple is because of its Hardware quality. Not just paper Spec, but the actual quality of hardware, from power supply, USB plugs, keyboard, trackpad, Screen and many others. Apple used to have many best in the Notebook segments. The problem is ( no idea why ) HP and Dell which dont used to compete on quality now has fairly decent Notebooks. And since Apple has stepped back in a few areas, all of a sudden the price becomes a little hard to swallow. Arguably Windows has gotten better as well, while the macOS seems to be, having more and more unnecessary issues. One way I dont buy the sales matrix argument, there are more people drawn into the Apple Mac ecosystem then ever, thanks to iPhone. Apple is now a luxury brand, and people will buy into the brand whether it is the best or good enough. And for certain older Apple users would remember: It's a bar of excellence that merely good isn't good enough. It has to be great. - Steve Jobs.

by dotsh 9y ago

thephyber 9y ago

I found the argument about cost even sillier than you described. If Apple were to continue to support devices that are 10+ years old (those that shipped with PPC arch) and didn't drop support for obsolete products, the price would be far higher for each device.

carlmr 9y ago

>Apple never was design for being pro. It was, but not for pro software engineers, but for pro designers, film editors, etc.

ksec 9y ago

Well another reason most Pros chooses Apple is because of its Hardware quality. Not just paper Spec, but the actual quality of hardware, from power supply, USB plugs, keyboard, trackpad, Screen and many others. Apple used to have many best in the Notebook segments. The problem is ( no idea why ) HP and Dell which dont used to compete on quality now has fairly decent Notebooks. And since Apple has stepped back in a few areas, all of a sudden the price becomes a little hard to swallow. Arguably Windows has gotten better as well, while the macOS seems to be, having more and more unnecessary issues. One way I dont buy the sales matrix argument, there are more people drawn into the Apple Mac ecosystem then ever, thanks to iPhone. Apple is now a luxury brand, and people will buy into the brand whether it is the best or good enough. And for certain older Apple users would remember: It's a bar of excellence that merely good isn't good enough. It has to be great. - Steve Jobs.