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If my argument is "mistaken", why are you focusing on the language that I used instead of just disproving my argument? I would also be interested that if the g

If my argument is "mistaken", why are you focusing on the language that I used instead of just disproving my argument? I would also be interested that if the gender wage gap is real and it is as believers describe it, how would you explain it without going into conspiracy land.

brucephillips 9y ago
Because your arguments are probably correct. I never claimed otherwise. I took issue with your language. You're contributing to the polarization by using unnecessary, inflammatory, and inaccurate language. That's the problem.
- whitemale 9y ago
  I'm going by this definition: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/conspire http://www.dictionary.com/browse/conspire Claiming that across the US women get paid 20% less than men, for doing exactly the same work with exactly the same qualifications with everything aside from genitals being equal is not a conspiracy theory in your opinion? Claiming that society is sexist in that way is not a conspiracy theory? Even if I grant you that I used harsh language, I take issue with your priorities, I would priorities truth over political correctness.
  - brucephillips 9y ago
    > Claiming that society is sexist in that way is not a conspiracy theory? No. It's just a false claim. False claims aren't conspiracy theories. > I would priorities truth over political correctness. It's prioritize*, and prioritization only matters when there's a tradeoff. I'm not sacrificing truth to point out your mistake.
    - whitemale 9y ago
      > False claims aren't conspiracy theories. Are you saying that conspiracy theories are all true? > I'm not sacrificing truth to point out your mistake. You are wasting 100% of your effort on arguing semantics instead of engaging with my actual argument, sounds like a tradeoff to me. And no, it's not a mistake, don't know where you got that idea from.
      - brucephillips 9y ago
        > Are you saying that conspiracy theories are all true? (A -/-> B) does not mean that (B -> !A) When arguments devolve into basic logical errors, there's little hope in finding a resolution, which you're obviously not after anyway. > You are wasting 100% of your effort on arguing semantics instead of engaging with my actual argument. You're so intent on picking a fight that you don't realize I agreed with your actual argument above. Happy trolling.
        dang 9y ago
        Please don't feed trolls on HN. That just makes this place worse, and the site guidelines ask you not to: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Instead, flag egregious comments, as explained there and at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.

brucephillips 9y ago

Because your arguments are probably correct. I never claimed otherwise. I took issue with your language. You're contributing to the polarization by using unnecessary, inflammatory, and inaccurate language. That's the problem.

whitemale 9y ago
I'm going by this definition: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/conspire http://www.dictionary.com/browse/conspire Claiming that across the US women get paid 20% less than men, for doing exactly the same work with exactly the same qualifications with everything aside from genitals being equal is not a conspiracy theory in your opinion? Claiming that society is sexist in that way is not a conspiracy theory? Even if I grant you that I used harsh language, I take issue with your priorities, I would priorities truth over political correctness.
- brucephillips 9y ago
  > Claiming that society is sexist in that way is not a conspiracy theory? No. It's just a false claim. False claims aren't conspiracy theories. > I would priorities truth over political correctness. It's prioritize*, and prioritization only matters when there's a tradeoff. I'm not sacrificing truth to point out your mistake.
  - whitemale 9y ago
    > False claims aren't conspiracy theories. Are you saying that conspiracy theories are all true? > I'm not sacrificing truth to point out your mistake. You are wasting 100% of your effort on arguing semantics instead of engaging with my actual argument, sounds like a tradeoff to me. And no, it's not a mistake, don't know where you got that idea from.
    - brucephillips 9y ago
      > Are you saying that conspiracy theories are all true? (A -/-> B) does not mean that (B -> !A) When arguments devolve into basic logical errors, there's little hope in finding a resolution, which you're obviously not after anyway. > You are wasting 100% of your effort on arguing semantics instead of engaging with my actual argument. You're so intent on picking a fight that you don't realize I agreed with your actual argument above. Happy trolling.
      - dang 9y ago
        Please don't feed trolls on HN. That just makes this place worse, and the site guidelines ask you not to: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Instead, flag egregious comments, as explained there and at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.