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National security?

by throwaway7645 9y ago

National security?

AsyncAwait 9y ago
Intel is a multinational corporation.
- mikeweiss 9y ago
  A multinational American company
  - AsyncAwait 9y ago
    With the majority of sales outside the U.S. Are you arguing for Intel to employ some sort of "American exceptionalism" type policy when notifying customers of weaknesses? Apart from being a discriminatory position in itself, it is also not a very sound business decision. Also, with all we know about the NSA, I'll be very surprised if the U.S. government didn't already knew and if they did, didn't try to take advantage of it.
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    - PeterisP 9y ago
      Yes, it's headquartered in USA, all the executives are personally liable to USA laws (and not Chinese laws), and it actually is quite possible that they could be required to pursue American exceptionalism in regards to security issues, even if they weren't doing so yesterday. I.e. an order (with due legal process) by USA government to not disclose that vulnerability to any Chinese companies would be possible and binding, but not the other way around. That's what being a USA company means, no matter where your sales are.
      - AsyncAwait 9y ago
        > an order (with due legal process) by USA government to not disclose that vulnerability to any Chinese companies would be possible and binding In that case, sure, but I was talking about a voluntary disclosure, which is the case here.
      - jknz 9y ago
        Any country where Intel sales CPUs could require by national law Intel, AMD etc to notify its government of vulnerabilities, no later than other governments. If Intel explicitly does some kind of US exceptionalism explicitly, the EU, China and other governments will probably require to be aware of the vulnerabilities no later than other governments. How could the EU possibly let Intel sell CPUs, and let Intel inform other governments of vulnerabilities first? So that the other governments have a time window to play with the vulnerability against the EU?
baq 9y ago
the relevant agency would learn the same way the relevant chinese agency learned that information... right?
- thrillgore 9y ago
  If they didn't discover the exploit sooner.
  - nsainside 9y ago
    Rumor has it that's the exploit the 3 letter agencies use to hoard passwords in the first place.

National security?

AsyncAwait 9y ago

Intel is a multinational corporation.

mikeweiss 9y ago
A multinational American company
- AsyncAwait 9y ago
  With the majority of sales outside the U.S. Are you arguing for Intel to employ some sort of "American exceptionalism" type policy when notifying customers of weaknesses? Apart from being a discriminatory position in itself, it is also not a very sound business decision. Also, with all we know about the NSA, I'll be very surprised if the U.S. government didn't already knew and if they did, didn't try to take advantage of it.
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  - PeterisP 9y ago
    Yes, it's headquartered in USA, all the executives are personally liable to USA laws (and not Chinese laws), and it actually is quite possible that they could be required to pursue American exceptionalism in regards to security issues, even if they weren't doing so yesterday. I.e. an order (with due legal process) by USA government to not disclose that vulnerability to any Chinese companies would be possible and binding, but not the other way around. That's what being a USA company means, no matter where your sales are.
    - AsyncAwait 9y ago
      > an order (with due legal process) by USA government to not disclose that vulnerability to any Chinese companies would be possible and binding In that case, sure, but I was talking about a voluntary disclosure, which is the case here.
    - jknz 9y ago
      Any country where Intel sales CPUs could require by national law Intel, AMD etc to notify its government of vulnerabilities, no later than other governments. If Intel explicitly does some kind of US exceptionalism explicitly, the EU, China and other governments will probably require to be aware of the vulnerabilities no later than other governments. How could the EU possibly let Intel sell CPUs, and let Intel inform other governments of vulnerabilities first? So that the other governments have a time window to play with the vulnerability against the EU?

baq 9y ago

the relevant agency would learn the same way the relevant chinese agency learned that information... right?

thrillgore 9y ago
If they didn't discover the exploit sooner.
- nsainside 9y ago
  Rumor has it that's the exploit the 3 letter agencies use to hoard passwords in the first place.