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So Intel knowingly ships faulty chips which smells of fraud and reveals a weakness in all of USA computers to another country which is known to employ cybercrim

by chx 9y ago

So Intel knowingly ships faulty chips which smells of fraud and reveals a weakness in all of USA computers to another country which is known to employ cybercriminals ... how on earth do they get away scot free? No criminal charges?

netsharc 9y ago
So, the people employed by the NSA who hacks other nations' computers and networks... are they cyber-criminals too? I suppose in the eyes of these governments, they are. I wonder if Intel just did it over the unsecured line, knowing that the NSA/FBI wiretaps that one...
- robocat 9y ago
  > So, the people employed by the NSA who hacks other nations' computers and networks... are they cyber-criminals too? In the reverse direction, the US has tried to sentence Chinese military members - https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/05/19/chinese-military-members-face-us-hacking-economic-espionage-charges https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/05/19/chinese-mili...
- averagewall 9y ago
  They absolutely are. Just as soldiers invading another country are breaking the law in that country - they don't even apply for a visa! America imprisons foreign spies and so do other countries. Warfare, government hacking and spying are weird crimes that people everywhere support when their own country does it but not when an enemy does. They don't even care if they're right or wrong, just root for their home team.
AsyncAwait 9y ago
> So Intel knowingly ships faulty chips which smells of fraud and reveals a weakness in all of USA computers to another country which is known to employ cybercriminals It also reveals weakness in Chinese, Russian and even Venezuelan Intel-based PCs and while you may not agree that customers in these countries deserve to get notified on par with top tier U.S. customers, (questionable stance), Intel clearly does, since at this point, it is a multinational corporation with large customer base outside the U.S.
eccbits 9y ago
Exactly right.

by chx 9y ago

netsharc 9y ago

So, the people employed by the NSA who hacks other nations' computers and networks... are they cyber-criminals too? I suppose in the eyes of these governments, they are. I wonder if Intel just did it over the unsecured line, knowing that the NSA/FBI wiretaps that one...

robocat 9y ago
> So, the people employed by the NSA who hacks other nations' computers and networks... are they cyber-criminals too? In the reverse direction, the US has tried to sentence Chinese military members - https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/05/19/chinese-military-members-face-us-hacking-economic-espionage-charges https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/05/19/chinese-mili...
averagewall 9y ago
They absolutely are. Just as soldiers invading another country are breaking the law in that country - they don't even apply for a visa! America imprisons foreign spies and so do other countries. Warfare, government hacking and spying are weird crimes that people everywhere support when their own country does it but not when an enemy does. They don't even care if they're right or wrong, just root for their home team.

AsyncAwait 9y ago

> So Intel knowingly ships faulty chips which smells of fraud and reveals a weakness in all of USA computers to another country which is known to employ cybercriminals It also reveals weakness in Chinese, Russian and even Venezuelan Intel-based PCs and while you may not agree that customers in these countries deserve to get notified on par with top tier U.S. customers, (questionable stance), Intel clearly does, since at this point, it is a multinational corporation with large customer base outside the U.S.

eccbits 9y ago

Exactly right.