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I respectfully disagree. For most troops, deploying with your personal device is a huge morale boost. Blocking GPS on these devices is not practical, and might

I respectfully disagree. For most troops, deploying with your personal device is a huge morale boost. Blocking GPS on these devices is not practical, and might actually help when it comes to innovation in the field (helicopter pilots using iPads to innovate routing, for example) - not to mention just basic morale (movies / music / what have you). These tools also go a long way toward operational readiness / fitness. They incentivize these things and are used for a reason. There are trade-offs with all these things, not to mention the practical issues of blocking them. I would expect, however, that identifying this as a huge security problem is relatively easy. "HEY DO NOT UPLOAD YOUR RUN WHILE DEPLOYED OR YOU MAY GET MORTARED" is likely a better option here, just below "MAKE SURE YOU WEAR YOUR NEON BELT" on every sign.

lostlogin 9y ago
> basic morale (movies / music / what have you). Communication with family and friends would be my first thought. Many historical accounts put a lot of emphasise on the mail delivery and what the news from home was. It must be/have been a significant problem dealing with the mail when you had a lot of troops in the field.
- sailfast 9y ago
  Totally Agree. I was not assuming broadband capability / cell service for my hypothetical (also traditional comms may be limited in remote / classified environments) but that's definitely another reason to have a personal device. Comms with family would be critical if they are possible.
jonahx 9y ago
> "HEY DO NOT UPLOAD YOUR RUN WHILE DEPLOYED OR YOU MAY GET MORTARED" is likely a better option here, just below "MAKE SURE YOU WEAR YOUR NEON BELT" on every sign. I take the whole lesson here to be: information can leak in unexpected ways. So solving this particular issue does nothing to help the larger problem. I'd imagine there are countless similar side channel leaks that already exist... and then even more that don't exist yet but will retroactively exist with a future phone or app update. The fox is in henhouse.
- sailfast 9y ago
  Agreed, but many times you need to be super explicit about the main channels, otherwise people just...forget and/or can't keep it all in their brain because some folks are bad with checklists. It's stupid easy to leave an Apple Watch or FitBit on your wrist walking around a secure location (as evidence suggests). Big signs required to avoid these kinds of risks. The signage required just to get people to leave their bloody phones outside a room is incredible - and they still err. Social Network training is already provided as well to avoid these kinds of social engineering risks, and yet... well, just search LinkedIn I'd imagine.

lostlogin 9y ago

> basic morale (movies / music / what have you). Communication with family and friends would be my first thought. Many historical accounts put a lot of emphasise on the mail delivery and what the news from home was. It must be/have been a significant problem dealing with the mail when you had a lot of troops in the field.

sailfast 9y ago
Totally Agree. I was not assuming broadband capability / cell service for my hypothetical (also traditional comms may be limited in remote / classified environments) but that's definitely another reason to have a personal device. Comms with family would be critical if they are possible.

jonahx 9y ago

> "HEY DO NOT UPLOAD YOUR RUN WHILE DEPLOYED OR YOU MAY GET MORTARED" is likely a better option here, just below "MAKE SURE YOU WEAR YOUR NEON BELT" on every sign. I take the whole lesson here to be: information can leak in unexpected ways. So solving this particular issue does nothing to help the larger problem. I'd imagine there are countless similar side channel leaks that already exist... and then even more that don't exist yet but will retroactively exist with a future phone or app update. The fox is in henhouse.

sailfast 9y ago
Agreed, but many times you need to be super explicit about the main channels, otherwise people just...forget and/or can't keep it all in their brain because some folks are bad with checklists. It's stupid easy to leave an Apple Watch or FitBit on your wrist walking around a secure location (as evidence suggests). Big signs required to avoid these kinds of risks. The signage required just to get people to leave their bloody phones outside a room is incredible - and they still err. Social Network training is already provided as well to avoid these kinds of social engineering risks, and yet... well, just search LinkedIn I'd imagine.