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If concert halls / theatres actually cared about scalping they’d require ID on admission. But they don’t, so they don’t. They care about concerts selling out, a

If concert halls / theatres actually cared about scalping they’d require ID on admission. But they don’t, so they don’t. They care about concerts selling out, and they want to outsource the risk management of optimising the price to the market. It’s like a futures market they can hedge in. All the crocodile tears in the world won’t change that. I will maybe, maybe accept that ID’ing is a barrier in the states, but in Europe everybody and their dog has id. Yet: scalping persists. I don’t blame the resellers anymore, frankly.

YeGoblynQueenne 9y ago
I think amelius is more concerned about the prices concert-goers have to pay for tickets, rather than about venues' profits.
- nothrabannosir 9y ago
  Yes, that’s my point. Event organisers cry incessantly about scalpers and all their purported anti-scalping rules. “Oh no, scalpers! They make it so expensive for the fans to get our reasonably priced, accessible tickets! Which we totally priced that way because we want you to have cheap access—not because we want to exchange potential profits for the guarantee of selling out!” /s. Print a name on the ticket, check ID at entry. Zero scalpers, “problem” solved. They know that. Yet here we are. Why oh why? Edit: to clarify, I’m trying to say that an event organiser has value from the concept of “selling out” beyond simply ticket revenue. It looks good, it’s a label that evokes exclusivity and popularity in audiences , which is important for future events. Big festivals are in the news every year with a new “sell out record time! Five femtoseconds omg! We are electrolytes, you are plants! Crave us!” Conveniently glossing over the fact that scalpers now own half the tickets. When pressed, “oh no, we hate scalpers! Boo. If we catch you, ho boy! We’ll give you a heck of a diddly talking to! Bad scalpers.” — “will you do anything to stop them?” — “yes, we all spend five minutes each day farting in their general direction.” Give me a break.
  - YeGoblynQueenne 9y ago
    I get what you're saying- but that's not absolving the scalpers, it's just apportioning some of the blame for the exploitation of concert-goers to concert organisers and venues. It's like having a mafia and a corrupt police force, both. It's not like because the cops are corrupt, the mafia gets away scott free. They're both to blame that things are going down the drain. In fact they're the same kind of people, following the same kind of tactics, just from different positions in society, like.

YeGoblynQueenne 9y ago

I think amelius is more concerned about the prices concert-goers have to pay for tickets, rather than about venues' profits.

nothrabannosir 9y ago
Yes, that’s my point. Event organisers cry incessantly about scalpers and all their purported anti-scalping rules. “Oh no, scalpers! They make it so expensive for the fans to get our reasonably priced, accessible tickets! Which we totally priced that way because we want you to have cheap access—not because we want to exchange potential profits for the guarantee of selling out!” /s. Print a name on the ticket, check ID at entry. Zero scalpers, “problem” solved. They know that. Yet here we are. Why oh why? Edit: to clarify, I’m trying to say that an event organiser has value from the concept of “selling out” beyond simply ticket revenue. It looks good, it’s a label that evokes exclusivity and popularity in audiences , which is important for future events. Big festivals are in the news every year with a new “sell out record time! Five femtoseconds omg! We are electrolytes, you are plants! Crave us!” Conveniently glossing over the fact that scalpers now own half the tickets. When pressed, “oh no, we hate scalpers! Boo. If we catch you, ho boy! We’ll give you a heck of a diddly talking to! Bad scalpers.” — “will you do anything to stop them?” — “yes, we all spend five minutes each day farting in their general direction.” Give me a break.
- YeGoblynQueenne 9y ago
  I get what you're saying- but that's not absolving the scalpers, it's just apportioning some of the blame for the exploitation of concert-goers to concert organisers and venues. It's like having a mafia and a corrupt police force, both. It's not like because the cops are corrupt, the mafia gets away scott free. They're both to blame that things are going down the drain. In fact they're the same kind of people, following the same kind of tactics, just from different positions in society, like.