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acupuncture? it's quite interesting that even animals suffer from placebo, despite us not believing they have cognitive ability to understand someone is doing a
by loverofthings 9y ago
acupuncture? it's quite interesting that even animals suffer from placebo, despite us not believing they have cognitive ability to understand someone is doing a "medical procedure" to fix their ailment.
- nkkollaw 9y agoYou're getting confused with homeopathy, I think.
- loverofthings 9y agoAcupuncture is placebo given all the available evidence.
- united893 9y agoJust FYI: acupuncture is when you inject needles into the skin to stimulate the nerves underneath. You don't need to believe in them to feel the effect. Think of it as a very subtle massage.
- loverofthings 9y agoIt's no better than placebo given all the available evidence.
- josephpmay 9y agoThere’s debate in the medical community whether acupuncture actually works or is a placebo... But yea, it does seem weird to do it on bears
- 0xcde4c3db 9y agoIs there a debate informed by decent evidence, though? As far as I know, no high-quality study has ever shown acupuncture to significantly outperform sham acupuncture, let alone outperform usual care. In my experience, studies cited by lay acupuncture advocates are usually either preliminary types of studies (uncontrolled or unsuitable control intervention, non-randomized, small N) or actually involve doing something other than acupuncture, such as running an electrical current through the needles.
- loverofthings 9y agoThere have been cases where acupuncture combined with some "proven" treatment does better than that proven treatment. IMO, that just puts doubt into the efficacy of that proven treatment. Any serious disease, like cancer, skin burns, severe pain, there is no evidence it's better than placebo.
- tritium 9y agoMaybe accupuncture, in this case, operates in the same area as horse whispering, exercising trust by engaging awareness and attenuating hostility. Operant conditioning has lots of animal applications. They can’t subject them to tranquilizers for weeks, and the pain leaves the injured animals restless, so they have to be dealt with, while fully lucid and agitated by their injuries. Familiarizing wild animals with being handled, even while in pain, and for the purpose of carrying out possibly painful procedures, has a unique set of problems to solve.