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> ...and we have no way of turning it off (temporarily) that we can't just switch right back on... i solved this problem by convincing myself that i don't actu

by mroll 9y ago

> ...and we have no way of turning it off (temporarily) that we can't just switch right back on... i solved this problem by convincing myself that i don't actually want to turn it back on

gavanwoolery 9y ago
I tried this, but then my friends convinced me to keep it on. :/ May at some point turn it off regardless...
- lemonberry 9y ago
  I deleted all of my social media profiles, i.e., unfriended and unfollowed everyone and then deleted my account. It's been a huge plus for me. What I've done to replace it is email and call people. I'm 42 so many of my friends are receptive to calls that younger people may not be so ymmv. I'm sure you know this, but your true friends will be there offline whether you see them online or not. Good luck!
  - AFNobody 9y ago
    I'm a 30s fellow and I do this as well. I'm all calls/text message + video calls via Signal/Wire/Skype. I don't understand the desire to publicly broadcast things and none of my friends have had an issue with it. Of course, my friends are mostly technical or privacy-oriented folks.
    - wll 9y ago
      A broadcast may be worthwhile when it carries measurable value and: produces unsigned side effects [0]; produces manageable signed side effects [1]. I’m 24, deleted Facebook at 18, WhatsApp last year, and I too am all calls (and emails for longform or bit sharing). I still observe HN, Twitter [2], domain-specific newsletters for value, and occasionally share when there’s value to be added. While I might have to manage debris, I see value. [0] https://arxiv.org/rss/cs https://arxiv.org/rss/cs [1] https://twitter.com https://twitter.com [2] A meticulously curated, filtered stream.
      - rimliu 9y ago
        Texting and callung are very different, sync vs. async.
        wll 9y ago
        They are indeed. I prefer to act within the boundaries of bare reality and leverage technology for value-oriented scenarios. I feel business-driven, cognition-altering escape palaces are wrathful, detrimental environments.
- mroll 9y ago
  What is the problem your friends have with you not being on Big Social Media? Is it that they want to be able to message you over those platforms? Or do they want you to see things they post? Or something else?
  - gavanwoolery 9y ago
    My only form of contact is Twitter for many people (they do not have my email). I posted my email publicly though when I tried to leave Twitter. Twitter is (to its benefit) an extremely low-friction form of communication that is not quite the same as email or a phone call. For example, I can say something on Twitter without demanding a given person's attention - rather, they can read it if they want to. Anyhow, it was more a philosophical problem that brought me back. I said, in so many words, that I wanted to be more "zen" (whatever that means) and eliminate distractions. They argued that I was not in a "zen" place if I let distractions bother me in the first place. So I took it as a challenge (which I failed). I think it easier to turn things off permanently than to master one's own willpower.
    - gt_ 9y ago
      Sounds like a fallacy. If I choose to not play a TV in the background on full volume in my office all day while I work, is this a result of my lacking willpower? Also, different people have different sensitivities. Don’t be so quick to write sensitivities off as weaknesses. To illustrate: the nervous system (and most other things) depends on sensing, and would simply fail if it were rendered too insensitive. Your sensitivities are often strengths when managed accordingly. Practicing and challenging them has it’s benefits, but we want to be strategic with this rather than simply withstanding to no end.
      - gavanwoolery 9y ago
        thanks, good points :)
    - khedoros1 9y ago
      > I think it easier to turn things off permanently than to master one's own willpower. That's one reason I left Reddit; too much coming down the pipe, even when my subscriptions were pared down to a few technical groups. It was easiest just to completely stop going.
sammoorhouse 9y ago
Are you really telling us, here of all places, that you’re NOT ON FACEBOOK?!
- dang 9y ago
  Can you please not post unsubstantive comments here? Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Note that they also ask you not to use uppercase like that; it's basically yelling.

by mroll 9y ago

> ...and we have no way of turning it off (temporarily) that we can't just switch right back on... i solved this problem by convincing myself that i don't actually want to turn it back on

gavanwoolery 9y ago

I tried this, but then my friends convinced me to keep it on. :/ May at some point turn it off regardless...

lemonberry 9y ago
I deleted all of my social media profiles, i.e., unfriended and unfollowed everyone and then deleted my account. It's been a huge plus for me. What I've done to replace it is email and call people. I'm 42 so many of my friends are receptive to calls that younger people may not be so ymmv. I'm sure you know this, but your true friends will be there offline whether you see them online or not. Good luck!
- AFNobody 9y ago
  I'm a 30s fellow and I do this as well. I'm all calls/text message + video calls via Signal/Wire/Skype. I don't understand the desire to publicly broadcast things and none of my friends have had an issue with it. Of course, my friends are mostly technical or privacy-oriented folks.
  - wll 9y ago
    A broadcast may be worthwhile when it carries measurable value and: produces unsigned side effects [0]; produces manageable signed side effects [1]. I’m 24, deleted Facebook at 18, WhatsApp last year, and I too am all calls (and emails for longform or bit sharing). I still observe HN, Twitter [2], domain-specific newsletters for value, and occasionally share when there’s value to be added. While I might have to manage debris, I see value. [0] https://arxiv.org/rss/cs https://arxiv.org/rss/cs [1] https://twitter.com https://twitter.com [2] A meticulously curated, filtered stream.
    - rimliu 9y ago
      Texting and callung are very different, sync vs. async.
      - wll 9y ago
        They are indeed. I prefer to act within the boundaries of bare reality and leverage technology for value-oriented scenarios. I feel business-driven, cognition-altering escape palaces are wrathful, detrimental environments.
mroll 9y ago
What is the problem your friends have with you not being on Big Social Media? Is it that they want to be able to message you over those platforms? Or do they want you to see things they post? Or something else?
- gavanwoolery 9y ago
  My only form of contact is Twitter for many people (they do not have my email). I posted my email publicly though when I tried to leave Twitter. Twitter is (to its benefit) an extremely low-friction form of communication that is not quite the same as email or a phone call. For example, I can say something on Twitter without demanding a given person's attention - rather, they can read it if they want to. Anyhow, it was more a philosophical problem that brought me back. I said, in so many words, that I wanted to be more "zen" (whatever that means) and eliminate distractions. They argued that I was not in a "zen" place if I let distractions bother me in the first place. So I took it as a challenge (which I failed). I think it easier to turn things off permanently than to master one's own willpower.
  - gt_ 9y ago
    Sounds like a fallacy. If I choose to not play a TV in the background on full volume in my office all day while I work, is this a result of my lacking willpower? Also, different people have different sensitivities. Don’t be so quick to write sensitivities off as weaknesses. To illustrate: the nervous system (and most other things) depends on sensing, and would simply fail if it were rendered too insensitive. Your sensitivities are often strengths when managed accordingly. Practicing and challenging them has it’s benefits, but we want to be strategic with this rather than simply withstanding to no end.
    - gavanwoolery 9y ago
      thanks, good points :)
  - khedoros1 9y ago
    > I think it easier to turn things off permanently than to master one's own willpower. That's one reason I left Reddit; too much coming down the pipe, even when my subscriptions were pared down to a few technical groups. It was easiest just to completely stop going.

sammoorhouse 9y ago

Are you really telling us, here of all places, that you’re NOT ON FACEBOOK?!

dang 9y ago
Can you please not post unsubstantive comments here? Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Note that they also ask you not to use uppercase like that; it's basically yelling.