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> Look at fig 1. They compared the number of people who had heart attacks from 1 -7 days after getting a positive lab test for influenza, and people who got hea

> Look at fig 1. They compared the number of people who had heart attacks from 1 -7 days after getting a positive lab test for influenza, and people who got heart attacks at any other time +/- 1 yr of the positive lab test. That makes total sense. Was there a link to the actual paper? Its really hard to understand these abstracts or have any meaningful discussion without it, sadly. > That abrupt cutoff at 7 days makes it sound like these people were being advised some kind of treatment that was increasing heart attack risk. It would have been nice to a group that had the flu but didn't have any of the standard treatments to see how they compared to the flu group with treatments because their test group seems like more than just the flu. Could you have a group too that did the treatments without the flu? That would seem a little unethical though ("here do this - we have this theory that you'll have a heart attack") All said, for those of you that have actually had influenza as an adult, a death actually sounds preferable.

nonbel 9y ago
> "Was there a link to the actual paper?" The title link goes to the paper. It only shows the abstract by defualt though. You need to get access to it to read the rest. Perhaps someone else can help you there. >"It would have been nice to a group that had the flu but didn't have any of the standard treatments to see how they compared to the flu group with treatments because their test group seems like more than just the flu." It didn't look like they reported what treatments were involved, but I only glanced at the paper. It is possible they had this data and missed/ignored it though. > "Could you have a group too that did the treatments without the flu?" I'm sure there are many people on NSAIDs for headaches and such that could be included. The dosage regimen is probably important though. Eg, suddenly start taking them for a week then stop, etc. > "All said, for those of you that have actually had influenza as an adult, a death actually sounds preferable." This seems a little strong. I haven't heard before that people consider the flu to be worse than death...

nonbel 9y ago

> "Was there a link to the actual paper?" The title link goes to the paper. It only shows the abstract by defualt though. You need to get access to it to read the rest. Perhaps someone else can help you there. >"It would have been nice to a group that had the flu but didn't have any of the standard treatments to see how they compared to the flu group with treatments because their test group seems like more than just the flu." It didn't look like they reported what treatments were involved, but I only glanced at the paper. It is possible they had this data and missed/ignored it though. > "Could you have a group too that did the treatments without the flu?" I'm sure there are many people on NSAIDs for headaches and such that could be included. The dosage regimen is probably important though. Eg, suddenly start taking them for a week then stop, etc. > "All said, for those of you that have actually had influenza as an adult, a death actually sounds preferable." This seems a little strong. I haven't heard before that people consider the flu to be worse than death...