> One thing you'll never really get, in my experience, is good spam handling. The big providers just have so much more data to work with to prevent spam. I've

> One thing you'll never really get, in my experience, is good spam handling. The big providers just have so much more data to work with to prevent spam. I've found the exact opposite. Big providers have to run more lenient rules than I'm willing to use. I can use SORBS and Spamhaus to bounce mail. Sure, both SORBS and SH suggest never ever doing this, but when you self-host you can check your logs, and over the course of a few years I've never had a false positive. Now that I'm reliant on my ISP for inbound mail I don't have that low pass filter and the amount of spam I get is staggering. Google is the worst offender in my experience. They don't take spam reports and they don't do a good job of filtering users' inboxes. Sure, there's a SORBS list to bounce mail from hosts that have bogus WHOIS info... but then you block Google... and everyone uses Google... so you just get to put up with all the spam they send out. From the other end, my gmail inbox is nothing but spam these days (the report spam link is generally useless).