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>but had made tweets like "kill all men". Personally, I have no problem with people saying things like this, especially in their personal lives. I like banter.

>but had made tweets like "kill all men". Personally, I have no problem with people saying things like this, especially in their personal lives. I like banter. But part of banter is that both sides are allowed to play. If someone can express extreme ideas like "kill all men" I should be able to make equally extreme jokes, but in different ideological directions. What bothers me is not the language, but the unfairness. I can understand not permitting banter at work or in organizations. It makes some people uncomfortable. But what I can't understand is just allowing banter of some ideological bent.

Chaebixi 9y ago
> I can understand not permitting banter at work or in organizations. It makes some people uncomfortable. But what I can't understand is just allowing banter of some ideological bent. I can. The point of "[only] allowing banter of [a particular] ideological bent" is to enforce conformity to that ideology. When that happens fairness isn't a priority. > What bothers me is not the language, but the unfairness. Me too.
TheFuryan 9y ago
Remember that the reason Damore had to be fired was: "Imagine if he was allowed to manage women or work with them (after his memo was leaked)."
- simonpenn 9y ago
  I've worked under an HR staff member who had this pin on her bag. I lived, and that job was good enough, but the thought was always in the back of my mind: what if I piss her off some day and she falls back on her prejudices + her position to make my life miserable? I would support a blanket ban on all things like that _in the workplace_.
  - fjsolwmv 9y ago
    What pin?
- fjsolwmv 9y ago
  "Imagine" is ann introduction, not a logical conclusion. What is the conclusion?
  - TheFuryan 9y ago
    That his clear prejudice against women would make him unfit to ever manage women. That the women on his team would know he thought they were inferior (despite him never saying that). "Kill all men" though... I'm sure the guys on her team would get a fair shake, right?

Chaebixi 9y ago

> I can understand not permitting banter at work or in organizations. It makes some people uncomfortable. But what I can't understand is just allowing banter of some ideological bent. I can. The point of "[only] allowing banter of [a particular] ideological bent" is to enforce conformity to that ideology. When that happens fairness isn't a priority. > What bothers me is not the language, but the unfairness. Me too.

TheFuryan 9y ago

Remember that the reason Damore had to be fired was: "Imagine if he was allowed to manage women or work with them (after his memo was leaked)."

simonpenn 9y ago
I've worked under an HR staff member who had this pin on her bag. I lived, and that job was good enough, but the thought was always in the back of my mind: what if I piss her off some day and she falls back on her prejudices + her position to make my life miserable? I would support a blanket ban on all things like that _in the workplace_.
- fjsolwmv 9y ago
  What pin?
fjsolwmv 9y ago
"Imagine" is ann introduction, not a logical conclusion. What is the conclusion?
- TheFuryan 9y ago
  That his clear prejudice against women would make him unfit to ever manage women. That the women on his team would know he thought they were inferior (despite him never saying that). "Kill all men" though... I'm sure the guys on her team would get a fair shake, right?