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There is a special place in Hell for those who made surveillance profitable. The surveillance apparatus of yesterday’s Eastern Europe tyrants was too inefficien
by pacala 9y ago
There is a special place in Hell for those who made surveillance profitable. The surveillance apparatus of yesterday’s Eastern Europe tyrants was too inefficient and collapsed under its own weight. Leave it to adtech to build economically viable surveillance, which can and will be cooped by governments.
- AndrewKemendo 9y agoSurveillance is too broad of a term. For example, at what level do you consider user tracking NOT surveillance, and why? Are cookies surveillance? IP Logging? Is UserAgent surveillance?
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- ethbro 9y agoThat which allows mass surveilling? The insidious thing is that sufficient storage + innocous tech can be transformed into surveillance... when everything's aggregated.
- AndrewKemendo 9y agosufficient storage + innocous[sic] tech can be transformed into surveillance Right, but it seems then you're saying that surveillance is more of an intention than it is a set of technologies. Some technologies make those intentions easier to act upon certainly, but the concept of "surveillance" needs to be defined better so that we can recognize what specifically makes it sinister.
- carapace 9y ago"Surveillance" is in the intent. If I collect user tracking data and that data leaks, or the government requisitions it, does it not then become surveillance data? FWIW, I have convinced myself that ubiquitous surveillance is pretty much inevitable as a side-effect to automation of infrastructure, so the question is how to manage it (rather than whether.) Right now we are seeing a split between "Morlocks" and "Eloi" where there is a huge gap between the understanding of the folks working at these AI-developing super-silos and the understanding of Joe and Jane User on the street.