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Did Zunger assign fault in that statement? I didn't read it like that. It's a prediction, not a prescription. Your summary is misleading. He didn't "justify" v
by xapata 9y ago
Did Zunger assign fault in that statement? I didn't read it like that. It's a prediction, not a prescription.
Your summary is misleading. He didn't "justify" violence. Saying that jaywalking is risky is not an ethical statement about cars.
- bjt2n3904 9y agoYes, he did assign fault. The words he used were: "it's your fault". If I'm assaulted in the workplace for a political viewpoint I anonymously posted, the fault is with the assaultee. Not with the assaulted. However, Zunger flips the blame. Didn't you see this coming? You should have known opposing the majority viewpoint would be met with violence. For workplace safety, I have to fire you. Ironically, he seems to blame tolerance on this. It seems the man doesn't understand what the word means. Edit: > Saying that jaywalking is risky is not an ethical statement about cars See my response above to joshuamorton.
- dcole2929 9y agoA) It wasn't posted anoymously and B) yes while it's absolutely the fault of the assailant, the assaulted does bare some blame depending on what was said. If you walk up to someone an say hey your mom is an <insert derogatory term> and get punched in the face. You can't say there wasn't a reasonable expectation of violence as result of your actions. Yonger is quite correct in that intentionally or not, for better or worse, Damore created a situation in which it would be very difficult to put him on a team anywhere. While work place violence is rarely the answer, and I sincerely doubt anyone at google would raise themselves to that level the fact of the matter is that even the risk of that puts Google in an impossible situation.
- xapata 9y ago>> Saying that jaywalking is risky is not an ethical statement about cars > See my response above to joshuamorton. I didn't understand the connection between that response and my assertion.
- ImSkeptical 9y agoZunger clearly writes that what Damore has done makes people want to punch him in the face. Of writing the memo Zunger says "What you just did was incredibly stupid and harmful" and later "its [writing the memo] impact on you: ... a good number of the people you might have to work with may simply punch you in the face." In other words, the impact of writing the memo is that people will want to punch Damore in the face. Zunger's blog post is extremely obnoxious. Not only does Zunger write something like "everything you say is wrong, but I won't explain any specific way you're wrong, or link to any such explanation" he then goes on to explain engineering to a senior engineer, and grossly misrepresents Damore. In addition he clearly does assign fault to Damore for people wanting to punch him.