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> Radar knows the speed of any object it sees, and is also simple, cheap, robust, and easy to build into a front bumper. But it also detects lots of things a ca
by BugsJustFindMe 9y ago
> Radar knows the speed of any object it sees, and is also simple, cheap, robust, and easy to build into a front bumper. But it also detects lots of things a car rolling down the highway needn't worry about, like overhead highway signs, loose hubcaps, or speed limit signs. So engineers make a choice, telling the car to ignore these things and keep its eyes on the other cars on the road: They program the system to focus on the stuff that's moving.
So these car-mounted radar systems can't detect how large an object is or where it is in relation to the road? I don't get how they can be used at all then. That can't be true, right? Because if you can tell how large something is, then the hubcap is out. And if you can tell where something is in relation to the vehicle and/or road, then the signs are out. I mean, hell, the most maniacal situation of climbing a steep hill with clearance under a sign that you just can't see because the sign happens to be mounted just after the rise, which probably doesn't exist anywhere in the world, would be out by other factors, like knowing that you're going up a steep hill.
So it really sounds like the only thing left is just not being able to tell how large something is, which sounds wild.
> This unsettling compromise may be better than nothing
People frequently find disappointment to be worse than nothing.
- Filligree 9y agoThere are physical limits to how good a radar's resolution can be, set by the properties of the radio waves used. Those make it really difficult to detect small size differences -- relative to the radar's wavelength -- though, not quite impossible. It's why everyone else uses lidar instead, or in addition. Really, it has the same limits, but the wavelength of visible light is small enough that they're only an issue for microscopes.
- Someone1234 9y agoThat's why many (most?) other vehicle manufacturers use cameras instead of radar. You physically see what the driver would physically see and react how the driver would react with the same information (just faster). See Subaru, Toyota, Honda, etc. I'm not sure why this article and this discussion seemingly act like the predominant technology used in automatic braking systems doesn't exist?
- sliken 9y agoTesla's use cameras as well.