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You don't seriously think people order drugs to their own addresses, right?
by nukeop 9y ago
You don't seriously think people order drugs to their own addresses, right?
- buildbuildbuild 9y agoI would not be surprised if, despite publicly harping about solid OPSEC, many users get tired and negligent.
- jstanley 9y agoProbably most of them are casual users, not addicts.
- Sangermaine 9y agoThis true for almost everyone. Most people are not nearly as careful and clever as they think they are. Many criminals, including Ross Ulbricht, get caught due to some small mistake or oversight. In reality it's very hard to maintain perfect security discipline forever.
- jstanley 9y agoWhere else? If I order drugs to somebody else's address, they'll get the drugs and not me.
- ddorian43 9y agoSend it to a friend of yours that doesn't do drugs but will give it to you. Edit: reason I wrote that, is that I remember one time, some dude found weed on the street, and since he didn't smoke he gave it to hit friend. So the same here. (But it's a joke cause mail+drugs+address+police no bueno)
- jackpeterfletch 9y agoWell, most people just put a fake name, or name of a previous tenant. Houses change ownership, people make mistakes.
- Tenoke 9y agoThat's actually a red flag, and heavily discouraged by the community in question, so 'most' definitely don't do that.
- herbst 9y agoThis is in fact the last thing you should do according to every single buyer guide. Postal service would assume there is something fishy going on.
- jackpeterfletch 9y agoRarely in the UK people pay for a redirect. Other than that the Postal Seervice don't really know who lives where. If your getting post for an ex tenant, that redirect isn't in place.
- jstanley 9y agoBut the postman who delivers the post will notice that he's delivering the odd bit of post for somebody who doesn't live there.
- philipov 9y agoI frequently receive mail for people who haven't lived in this house for a decade, so I challenge your assumption. The postman isn't paid enough to care.
- alexfoo 9y agoI get at least 2 or 3 letters a week for previous residents of my house (and I've owned it for 10 years). Probably 1 or 2 packages a year too. (Yes I follow the recommended process for dealing with it.) UK: https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5156/~/ive-received-someone-elses-mail https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/... " It's my address but someone else's name We deliver to addresses rather than names so our advice here would be to put a cross through the address and write on the item 'Not known at this address' or, 'No longer lives here' and post the item at your convenience - you won't need to apply any postage. Where applicable we will return the item to the sender hopefully allowing them to update their records. "
- cvsh 9y agoThe guides on places like /r/DarkNetMarkets do actually recommend shipping to your own address, under your own name.
- ssharp 9y agoThe theory is that if the post office contacts the police, the police will have the post office confirm the delivery, which you could then deny. There was a Cleveland Indians player a few years that had a big package of pot delivered to his house and his downfall was signing for the package.
- alasdair_ 9y agoI'm sure a lot of people did. Getting caught using a fake address, stealing mail etc. is clear evidence of a crime. Getting mail at your house? Not something you can prevent and it would likely be easy to claim ignorance of the contents.
- megaman22 9y agoDrug users are not always known for stellar opsec...
- herbst 9y agoIf you live in a civilized country and the police is not known to shoot random people i would say its a fair risk to take for some. SWIM told them he doesnt know about this package and showed them how his address is public for anyone due to owning domains. SWIM only paid a low fee for the little weed they found at his home and was at work in time.
- gomox 9y agoConsider this: People order pills online on an anonymous site designed for people to be untrackable, using anonymous methods of payment, and then ingest the aforementioned pills they received in the mail from China without a second thought. I would say compared to getting poisoned with unknown substances, trouble with the law seems like a distant secondary issue.
- sli 9y agoThis is certainly a concern, but I'm not convinced it's all that rampant. You can't make much money if you 1) poison your customers, or 2) are a brand new seller (e.g. if you make a new account after every sale to avoid stacking negative community ratings). And if the buyer isn't testing their drugs before doing them, that's on the buyer. That's the reality of that market.
- gomox 9y agoI'm sure poisoning customers is bad for business, but the stakes are as high as it gets (pun intended). Statistically speaking I'm sure a very low percentage of people that do drugs get in trouble with law enforcement as well. Still, it speaks volumes about the buyers' risk aversion which was the original point. That being said you have a good point about testing. Personally I'm not a consumer so I don't know how widespread testing is.
- dfischer 9y agoThat’s exactly what people do.
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