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I'm more likely to get killed by a fall in the tub than by a terrorist, yet I don't fear going into the shower without my phone. Fearing terrorism is a conseque

I'm more likely to get killed by a fall in the tub than by a terrorist, yet I don't fear going into the shower without my phone. Fearing terrorism is a consequence of innumeracy. Do you carry your cellphone in case you or a nearby person get struck by lightning too? More US citizens get struck (and killed) by lightning every year than die in terrorist attacks since 2001.

girvo 9y ago
Actually, yes, that’s exactly why I carry my phone: for contacting emergency services when something goes awry. Your lightning analogy sort of falls down a bit here (even though I agree with your overall point of not fearing terrorist attacks)
larkeith 9y ago
The fact that the risk is comparatively low is no excuse to disregard it. Furthermore, any number of emergencies can be exacerbated by a lack of phone access - medical emergencies, fires, or any other major problem might have significantly higher fatality rates in the absence of telecommunications.
novas0x2a 9y ago
First, let me say that I'm not panicking about the probability of this actually happening, but: "I'm more likely to get killed by a fall in the tub than by a terrorist" is only true of an _arbitrary_ attack at an _arbitrary_ venue and time (and an _arbitrary_ bathtub :)). Events that use Yondr announce it ahead of time, waving a big flag that says "no one here will be able to call for help." The probability of an attack at such an event would be much higher compared to an arbitrary one (although, definitely still small, which is why I'm not exactly panicking...)
- valuearb 9y ago
  Your entire premise is incorrect. Even with Yondr hundreds of people will be able to call for help. Such as ushers, security, ticket takers, concession workers, event management, etc, etc, etc. Yondr means less (or at least less rapid) social media publicity for a terrorist act, so one could argue that it deters terrorists.

girvo 9y ago

Actually, yes, that’s exactly why I carry my phone: for contacting emergency services when something goes awry. Your lightning analogy sort of falls down a bit here (even though I agree with your overall point of not fearing terrorist attacks)

larkeith 9y ago

The fact that the risk is comparatively low is no excuse to disregard it. Furthermore, any number of emergencies can be exacerbated by a lack of phone access - medical emergencies, fires, or any other major problem might have significantly higher fatality rates in the absence of telecommunications.

novas0x2a 9y ago

First, let me say that I'm not panicking about the probability of this actually happening, but: "I'm more likely to get killed by a fall in the tub than by a terrorist" is only true of an _arbitrary_ attack at an _arbitrary_ venue and time (and an _arbitrary_ bathtub :)). Events that use Yondr announce it ahead of time, waving a big flag that says "no one here will be able to call for help." The probability of an attack at such an event would be much higher compared to an arbitrary one (although, definitely still small, which is why I'm not exactly panicking...)

valuearb 9y ago
Your entire premise is incorrect. Even with Yondr hundreds of people will be able to call for help. Such as ushers, security, ticket takers, concession workers, event management, etc, etc, etc. Yondr means less (or at least less rapid) social media publicity for a terrorist act, so one could argue that it deters terrorists.